Pythagorean Identities - finding sin and cos ?

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The discussion revolves around finding the sine and cosine of an angle given the tangent value in the context of Pythagorean identities. The original poster is working with the tangent of theta equal to 2/3, specifically in quadrant 2.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss which Pythagorean identities to use, with suggestions to utilize the relationships between tangent, sine, and cosine. There is also exploration of the definitions of secant and cosecant in relation to tangent.

Discussion Status

Several participants have provided guidance on using specific Pythagorean identities, and there is an ongoing exploration of how to derive sine and cosine from the given tangent value. The conversation includes attempts to clarify the relationships between the trigonometric functions and the identities available in the original poster's formula sheet.

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There is some confusion regarding the identities listed on the original poster's formula sheet compared to those suggested by other participants. The original poster is also working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the approaches they can take.

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Homework Statement



For tan(theta) = /2/3 (theta in quadrant 2) find sin(pheta) and cos(pheta) using the pythagorean identities.



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Which 2 pythagorean identities would I use?

My trouble is with finding sin and cos from tan.
 
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You probably want to use tan(theta)=sin(theta)/cos(theta) and sin(theta)^2+cos(theta)^2=1. Now try it.
 
Dick said:
You probably want to use tan(theta)=sin(theta)/cos(theta) and sin(theta)^2+cos(theta)^2=1. Now try it.

So, I get this one here: sin(theta)^2+cos(theta)^2=1 - worked out :)

But my other 2 options, according to my text's formula sheet, I can choose from the following formulas?

1+tan^2(theta) = sec^2(theta)

1 + cot^2(theta) = csc^2(theta)

?
 
nukeman said:
So, I get this one here: sin(theta)^2+cos(theta)^2=1 - worked out :)

But my other 2 options, according to my text's formula sheet, I can choose from the following formulas?

1+tan^2(theta) = sec^2(theta)

1 + cot^2(theta) = csc^2(theta)

?

Since your problem involves tan(theta), I'd try working with the first one. sec(theta)=1/cos(theta), yes?
 
Dick, there is something I am not getting.

My formula sheet has the following 2 formulas to use, and the formula you are telling me is not one of them?

1+tan^2(theta) = sec^2(theta)

1 + cot^2(theta) = csc^2(theta)

Thanks so much for your help.
 
nukeman said:
Dick, there is something I am not getting.

My formula sheet has the following 2 formulas to use, and the formula you are telling me is not one of them?

1+tan^2(theta) = sec^2(theta)

1 + cot^2(theta) = csc^2(theta)

Thanks so much for your help.

sec(theta)=1/cos(theta) may not be in your list of pythogorean identities along with tan(theta)=sin(theta)/cos(theta), but I think you can use them anyway. They are sort of the definition of sec(theta) and tan(theta).
 
I guess you could start by using the
1 + tan2 θ = sec2 θ
identity to find sec θ, and by extension, cos θ. Then use another Pythagorean identity to find sin θ.
 
Take the Pythagorean Identity. Divide thru using the sin^2 term. Simplify.
Take the Pythagorean Identity. Divide thru using the cos^2 term. Simplify.
You should derive the two formulas on your formula sheet. They are both restatements of this most important trig identity.
 
The 'basic' Pythagorean identity is just the Pythagorean theorem- if a right triangle has legs of length a and b and hypotenuse of length c, then [itex]c^2= a^2+ b^2[/itex].


If tan(theta)= 2/3, then the triangle is similar to a triangle with "opposite side" of length 2 and "near side" of length 3. By the Pythagorean theorem, the hypotenuse, c, is given by [itex]c^2= 2^2+ 3^2= 4+ 9= 13[/itex] so the length of the hypotenuse is [itex]\sqrt{13}[/itex]. Now, knowing that you have a right triangle with "opposite side" of length 2, "near side" of length 3, and "hypotenuse" of length [itex]\sqrt{13}[/itex] you can immediately calculate any of the trigonometric functions of this angle.
 
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hi nukeman! :smile:

(have a theta: θ and try using the X2 icon just above the Reply box :wink:)
nukeman said:
So, I get this one here: sin(theta)^2+cos(theta)^2=1 - worked out :)

But my other 2 options, according to my text's formula sheet, I can choose from the following formulas?

1+tan^2(theta) = sec^2(theta)

1 + cot^2(theta) = csc^2(theta)

?

each of the three Pythagorean identities only relates two functions at a time …

one relates tan and sec, one relates cot and cosec, and one relates cos and sin …

to start from tan and get cos, you need to go from tan to sec (as eumyang :smile: says), then use sec = 1/cos

to start from tan and get sin, you either need to do al that, and then go from cos to sin, or you can start again, use cot = 1/tan, then go from cot to cosec, then use sin = 1/cosec :wink:
 

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