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The discussion revolves around the continuity of the function f(x,y,z)=8xy/(x^2+y^2-z) in the context of an advanced calculus exam question. Participants explore the definitions of continuity and domain in relation to a circular paraboloid, as well as the implications of the instructor's grading.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that the function is continuous at all points except those on the circular paraboloid z=x^2 + y^2, as stated by the instructor.
  • Others argue that the domain of the function should include all points inside or outside the paraboloid, but not on it, suggesting a misunderstanding of the definition of "inside" and "outside."
  • A participant points out that the term "inside the paraboloid" could be misinterpreted, particularly by non-native English speakers.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need for a precise definition of the domain to clarify which points are excluded and questions the instructor's reasoning for marking the answer incorrect.
  • There is a suggestion that the grading may have been overly strict, particularly regarding the lack of explicit definitions in the student's response.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the definitions of domain and continuity, with no consensus reached on the instructor's grading or the interpretation of the terms used in the student's answer.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the ambiguity in defining "inside" and "outside" concerning the paraboloid, as well as the need for precise language when discussing the domain of the function.

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Hello everyone.

Last week I had an exam in advanced calculus. One of the questions asked about the continuity of a function of three variables.

However, the doctor gave me 0 out of 3 for the question while i am sure that my answer is correct and i told him that but he insisted that its wrong.

can you help me?Question:

Discuss the continuity of the function f(x,y,z)=8xy/(x^2+y^2-z)

-------------------------------
Doctor's Answer:

the function is continuous in all the points except the points lying on the
circular paraboloid z=x^2 + y^2

-------------------------------
My answer:

the domain of f(x,y,z) is all the point lying inside or outside (but not on) the
circular paraboloid z=x^2 + y^2

the function is continuous in all the points that lie inside or outside the
circular paraboloid z=x^2 + y^2
-------------------------------Thank you very much
 
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shnayzr said:
Hello everyone.

Last week I had an exam in advanced calculus. One of the questions asked about the continuity of a function of three variables.

However, the doctor gave me 0 out of 3 for the question while i am sure that my answer is correct and i told him that but he insisted that its wrong.

can you help me?


Question:

Discuss the continuity of the function f(x,y,z)=8xy/(x^2+y^2-z)

-------------------------------
Doctor's Answer:

the function is continuous in all the points except the points lying on the
circular paraboloid z=x^2 + y^2

-------------------------------
My answer:

the domain of f(x,y,z) is all the point lying inside or outside (but not on) the
circular paraboloid z=x^2 + y^2

the function is continuous in all the points that lie inside or outside the
circular paraboloid z=x^2 + y^2
-------------------------------


Thank you very much

It looks like he was somewhat picky.

The first sentence says there are points in (x,y,z) space not in the domain. You need a very precise definition of domain to exclude these points and he may feel that they shouldn't be excluded.

The second sentence needs a definition for inside and outside. This surface doesn't enclose anything, so there is no inside or outside.
 
Just to play devil's advocate ...

1. "Inside the paraboloid" could be interpreted as meaning "on the paraboloid", especially, I would imagine, by someone for whom English is a second language.

2. You technically didn't say where the function was discontinuous.

I agree, though, that the grading seems a bit picky. Did he give an explanation for why he is saying your answer is wrong?
 
mathman said:
It looks like he was somewhat picky.

The first sentence says there are points in (x,y,z) space not in the domain. You need a very precise definition of domain to exclude these points and he may feel that they shouldn't be excluded.

The second sentence needs a definition for inside and outside. This surface doesn't enclose anything, so there is no inside or outside.

I doubt the domain is the issue; by not specifying the domain, one should choose the largest domain possible. And, as a rule (I hope), a function should always be total, this is very widely assumed and should be the standard. Recall that the domain is also called the domain of definition. So, the function is not continuous on the paraboloid because it is not defined on the paraboloid, but it is continuous at all points in the domain.

I agree with your second point, "inside" and "outside" may not have been defined.
 

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