Undergrad QM & Ontology: Why Should We Stay Away?

[A. Neumaier]

Entities : example; Electrons (be a wave, a particle...)
Facts: Properties (attributes, qualities, features, characteristics...)

facts are secondary, I.E. derived.

? One cannot even define entities without stating their defining properties, i.e., some facts about them.

 

[physika]

? One cannot even define entities without stating their defining properties, i.e., some facts about them.

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What do you say ? that if you don't define it, it doesn't exist?
without definition, there is no existence ??

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[A. Neumaier]

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What do you say ? that if you don't define it, it doesn't exist?
without definition, there is no existence ??

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Without a sufficiently precise definition of a concept X it is undetermined what the statement that X exists means.

 

[physika]

Without a sufficiently precise definition of a concept X it is undetermined what the statement that X exists means.

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Objects (thing, entity) exist whether or not has a definition. To imagine they don't exist before we make such a definition but they do after we make the definition is nonsense.

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[physika]

Saying that the atom exists means nothing unless you specify what properties of the atom exist. For instance, does its spin (before one measures it) exist?

and how you can talk about properties without that atom.
no object, no property.
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