Quadcopter or drone robots designing

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the factors contributing to the rising popularity of quadcopters and drones. Participants explore various aspects such as propeller design, motor specifications, and battery power, while seeking deeper theoretical insights into drone design and functionality.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that propeller design, motor weight and speed, and battery power are key factors in the popularity of quadcopters.
  • One participant describes their experience with a quadrotor, emphasizing that lift is generated by the propellers' angular velocity and the reaction forces from air when propellers push air downwards.
  • A participant references an article discussing how drones simplify the complexity of flight through software, allowing users to control them more easily compared to traditional model helicopters.
  • Another participant notes that to hover, the rotors must generate lift equal to the drone's weight, and discusses the efficiency differences between large and small rotors.
  • Some participants mention that many drones use contra-rotating blades to mitigate torque reaction issues faced by traditional helicopter pilots.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the factors influencing drone popularity, with no clear consensus on which aspects are most critical. The discussion remains open-ended with multiple competing perspectives on the topic.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully explored the theoretical underpinnings of drone design, and there are unresolved questions regarding the efficiency and mechanics of different rotor designs.

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Hello everyone !

Its very first post here & with the go i want to know about basic reasons behind the liftup of quadcopters or drone going popular these days.

Is it
the propeller designing
motor weight & speed
battery power
etc ??

please explain :smile:
 
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rajrocks said:
Hello everyone !

Its very first post here & with the go i want to know about basic reasons behind the liftup of quadcopters or drone going popular these days.

Is it
the propeller designing
motor weight & speed
battery power
etc ??

please explain :smile:

Welcome to the PF.

It helps us a lot if we know what reading and research you've done so far. Can you post links to reading you have done so far, and ask specific technical questions about that reading? Thanks! :smile:
 
no nothing :biggrin: i just read about various propeller designs
some are making it with soft drink cans & so & so
i saw parrot AR prop.
I got so many things on net but want to know about deep theoretical designings
 
I have once fabricated (not designed but yet I had to analyse the given blueprint) a qaudrotor. In our design, it is the propeller design and rotation which is responsible for the lift. The lift generated depends on the angular velocity (## \omega ##) of propellers. This lift is mainly due to the reaction forces applied by air on propellers when the propellers push air downwards. The ## \omega ## of the propellers are set as such that the angular momentum of the system is conserved with respect to it's centre of gravity and your quadrotor is in rotational equilibrium. This results in lifting off of the quadrotor. You simply have to maintain the ## \omega ## if you wish to keep your device at a certain height. ## \omega ## depend on the configuration of motor and battery employed in your device and this angular velocity (of each propeller) can be varied. (all you need is a transceiver set-up and a little knowledge of coding). Now by varying this ##\omega ## you can tilt your quadrotor in desired direction (pitch, roll or yaw) and the movement is taken care of by the reaction forces. For example if you wish to move your quadrotor forward, all you need to do is set the angular velocities such that the quadrotor tilts in forward direction (pitch down) and the reaction forces from air will push your quadrotor forward.
 
rajrocks said:
Hello everyone !

Its very first post here & with the go i want to know about basic reasons behind the liftup of quadcopters or drone going popular these days.

Is it
the propeller designing
motor weight & speed
battery power
etc ??

please explain :smile:
Apropos, today's WSJ has an article and interview with the "father of [copter] drones", explaining the innovations that made the popular
http://www.wsj.com/articles/a-consumer-drone-pioneer-were-learning-as-we-go-1428511868

WSJ: Model aircraft have been around for decades. How are drones different? Why have they become popular?

Mr. Muñoz: The complexity of a model helicopter is massive. A human cannot independently control four motors and try to balance them and be able to fly forward. Impossible. They’d crash. Drones transfer this mechanical complexity to the software. The software is doing all the difficult tasks of sensing and orientation in trying to stabilize it.

Normally, flying a model helicopter, you’re trying to keep it stable. A drone stays there for you, and you just tell it, like a videogame, move right or move left. Now a lawyer, a doctor, anybody can fly it.
 
It's a huge subject covering many different sciences.

To hover the rotor(s) must generate as much lift as the drone weighs. To do that they must accelerate air downwards (F=m*a). They can do that with a large slow rotor or a small high speed rotor. In general large blades are more efficient than small ones which is why real helicopters use relatively few large blades not lots of small ones. Model drones are probably relatively inefficient.

They are popular because they are a lot easier to fly than a conventional model helicopter. Most/many use contra rotating blades so that the pilot doesn't have to deal with the changing torque reaction that a helicopter pilot has to manage.
 

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