Quantum Harmonic Oscillator problem

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the probability of measuring a quantum harmonic oscillator's position within a specified distance from the origin. The problem specifically addresses the n = 1 harmonic oscillator wave function and involves integrating the wave function over a defined range.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the appropriate formula for calculating probability, questioning whether to use the squared wave function or an integral over the wave function. There is also exploration of the normalization constant and its implications for the wave function.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some expressing confusion about the hint provided and the correct application of the wave function. There is a recognition of the need to clarify the relationship between the distance d and the variable x in the context of the probability calculation.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note potential misunderstandings regarding the integration limits and the implications of changing variables in the context of the problem. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to clarify the setup and assumptions inherent in the problem statement.

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Homework Statement



For the n = 1 harmonic oscillator wave function, find the probability p that, in an experiment which measures position, the particle will be found within a distance d = (mk)-1/4√ħ/2 of the origin. (Hint: Assume that the value of the integral α = ∫0^1/2 x^2e^(-x2/2) dx is known and express your result as a function of α)


Homework Equations



distance from 0 to d; d = (mk)^(-1/4) *√ħ/2

s=[km^(1/4) /ħ^2]*x

Normalize condition: Cn = 1/ (π^2√(2^nn!)

Harmonic Oscillator wave function for n = 1 ψ1 = C1(2s)e^-s2/2


The Attempt at a Solution



Is the formula that I want to use here p=ψ∗(x)ψ(x) or
p=∫ψ∗(x)ψ(x)dx? (p stands for probability.)

s=[km^(1/4) /ħ^2]* (mk)^(-1/4) *√ħ/2 = 1/2

C1=1/π^2√2 so ψ1 = (1/π^2√2)e^-1/2

so, now, do I use:

p=ψ∗(x)ψ(x)= [(1/π^(2)√2)e^-1/2]^2= 1/2π^4 * e^-1

I believe that this is the right way, but the hint confuses me.
 
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Caulfield said:

Homework Statement



For the n = 1 harmonic oscillator wave function, find the probability p that, in an experiment which measures position, the particle will be found within a distance d = (mk)-1/4√ħ/2 of the origin. (Hint: Assume that the value of the integral α = ∫0^1/2 x^2e^(-x2/2) dx is known and express your result as a function of α)


Homework Equations



distance from 0 to d; d = (mk)^(-1/4) *√ħ/2

s=[km^(1/4) /ħ^2]*x

Normalize condition: Cn = 1/ (π^2√(2^nn!)

Harmonic Oscillator wave function for n = 1 ψ1 = C1(2s)e^-s2/2


The Attempt at a Solution



Is the formula that I want to use here p=ψ∗(x)ψ(x) or
p=∫ψ∗(x)ψ(x)dx? (p stands for probability.)

s=[km^(1/4) /ħ^2]* (mk)^(-1/4) *√ħ/2 = 1/2

C1=1/π^2√2 so ψ1 = (1/π^2√2)e^-1/2

so, now, do I use:

p=ψ∗(x)ψ(x)= [(1/π^(2)√2)e^-1/2]^2= 1/2π^4 * e^-1

I believe that this is the right way, but the hint confuses me.
I don't see how you got that expression for ##p##. What happened to the rest of the wave function?
 
I changed C1 when n=1 and s(d) when d = (mk)^(-1/4) *√ħ/2.

then ψ∗ψ=ψ^2 (since there is no i, ψ is real)
 
I made i typing mistake, I am sorry.

so ψ1 = C1(2s)e^-((s^2)/2)

Changing C1 and s gives ψ1 =(1/π^2√2)*(2*1/2)e^-((1/2^2)/2)

which gives ψ1 =(1/π^2√2)e^-1/8

and ψ1*ψ1=(1/2π^4)e^-1/4
 
Where's ##x##?
 
x is d.
 
Why are you plugging ##d## in for ##x##?

The problem asks you to find the probability the particle is found within a distance ##d## of the origin. What if it were to ask you find the probability the particle was found within a distance ##d/2## and ##d## of the origin? Would you still just plug in ##d## for ##x##? How would the ##d/2## fit in?
 
right... so now i see it makes more sense to use ∫ψ∗(x)ψ(x)dx... ok, i got the result. thanks
 

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