Quation about term symbols: N atom

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The discussion revolves around the term symbols for the nitrogen atom, specifically the implications of the term symbol 4S3/2, and how it relates to energy levels and transitions in atomic and molecular physics. Participants explore the concepts of degeneracy, energy diagrams, and linestrengths in transitions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that the term symbol for nitrogen is 4S3/2, indicating L=0, S=3/2, and J=3/2, and questions why only one state appears in energy diagrams despite the quartet nature of the state.
  • Another participant explains that in the absence of a magnetic field, the four states corresponding to S=3/2 are degenerate, leading to no observable splitting.
  • A participant compares nitrogen's term symbols with those of oxygen, noting that oxygen's triplet P state has three lines corresponding to different J values, which do not represent the ground state but include other states.
  • There is a query about the molecular term symbol for N2(A) being a triplet sigma and whether similar principles apply regarding degeneracy and linestrengths in transitions between states.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express some agreement on the nature of degeneracy in the absence of a magnetic field, but there is uncertainty regarding the implications for linestrengths and the representation of states in energy diagrams. The discussion remains unresolved on these points.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific transitions and linestrengths without fully resolving the underlying assumptions about degeneracy and energy level populations.

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So the term symbol for the nitrogen atom is 4S3/2

This means L=0, S=3/2, hence J=3/2. My question is that if S=3/2 than this is a quartet, meaning there are four levels, yet I only ever see one state listed on energy diagrams? What gives? Obviously, I'm still trying to learn term symbols Are there four levels and all of the atoms assume the lowers level? So you can't do absorption, for example, on the three higher levels because they won't be populated?
 
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Btw, this question is more apt for the atomic physics forum.
To your question: As long as there is no magnetic field the four states with S=3/2 or J=3/2 are degenerate. In a magnetic field you will observe the splitting i.e. the Zeeman effect.
 
OK, that makes sense. I think my confusion was that I was comparing the nitrogen and oxygen term symbols with known transition lines and for oxygen (triplet P) there are three close P line corresponding to different J values. These three lines don't represent the triplet of the ground state but rather the ground state and two other states. Correct?

Also, when I have a molecular term symbol, say for N2(A), I have a triplet sigma. does the same thing apply? The reason I ask is because I'm looking at a paper that talks about the different linestrengths (looking at N2(A)->N2(B) (trip pi)) when going from one to another (P11 being stronger than P12, etc). If they are truly degenerate, than why do they have different linestrengths and how would you even know?Sorry about the location.
 
DrDu said:
Btw, this question is more apt for the atomic physics forum.

And it has been moved accordingly. :smile:
 

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