Question about a bicycle wheel going uphill

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The discussion revolves around the mechanics of bicycle wheels, specifically focusing on the implications of wheel size and the relationship between points on a wheel and a belt during pedaling. Participants are exploring concepts related to force, distance, and mechanical advantage in the context of bicycle gearing.

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  • Participants are questioning the impact of wheel size on the force required for pedaling and discussing the relationship between points on a wheel and a belt. There are attempts to clarify the mechanics of revolutions and distances traveled by different points on the wheel.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and prompting each other to think critically about the mechanics involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between force and distance in the context of levers and mechanical advantage.

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There is some confusion regarding the specific questions being referenced, with participants clarifying whether they are discussing question 19 or 20. The distinction between bicycle wheels and sprockets in the diagrams is also noted as a point of clarification.

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I have a question about 19 and 22.19. I am not sure what difference having a large or smaller wheel would make when pedaling a bicycle. I would assume a large a larger radius turning would require more force.
22. The correct answer is c. I think this is because point A travels a large circumference than point B but it makes fewer revolutions around the center of wheel compared to point B that is my reasoning.
 
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homeylova223 said:
19. I am not sure what difference having a large or smaller wheel would make when pedaling a bicycle. I would assume a large a larger radius turning would require more force.
As the risk of sounding patronizing, is it a safe assumption that you have never been on a geared bicycle?
They are there for the very reason you mention.

homeylova223 said:
22. The correct answer is c. I think this is because point A travels a large circumference than point B but it makes fewer revolutions around the center of wheel compared to point B that is my reasoning.
Point A and Point B are points on the belt, right? Literally, you could paint dots on the belt in the appropriate locations and label them, right? As the wheels turn, how do you think the two paints dots are related in terms of distance?
 
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22. Well for one revolution around the center of the wheel point A would travel a greater distance because of the greater circumference.
 
homeylova223 said:
22. Well for one revolution around the center of the wheel point A would travel a greater distance because of the greater circumference.
Is point A affixed to the belt or to the wheel?
Is point B affixed to the belt or to the wheel?
Does it matter?

@DaveC426913 is trying very hard to get you to think correctly about this.
 
homeylova223 said:
19. I am not sure what difference having a large or smaller wheel would make when pedaling a bicycle. I would assume a large a larger radius turning would require more force.
There is no mention to a bicycle in question #19.
Are you referring to question #20 instead?

For either question, what you basically have, at any instant, are two levers of different length, interconnected by a belt or chain.
The advantage to gaining force is offset by the disadvantage of losing distance.
The advantage to gaining distance is offset by the disadvantage of losing force.

Please, see:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanical_advantage
 
If you do mean q20, not 19, note that the diagram "wheels" are sprockets, not the bicycle wheels. In each diagram, the bicycle wheel is coaxial with the rear sprocket (Y) and turns at the same angular rate as the sprocket. The front sprocket turns with the pedals.
 

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