Question about finding area using Green's Theorem

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The discussion revolves around using Green's Theorem to find the area of a region defined by a parameterized curve. The curve is given by r(t)= for the interval 0 <= t <= 2pi, with a focus on the area between the x-axis and the curve.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss identifying the boundaries of the region based on the parameterized curve and express uncertainty about proceeding with the double integral without a defined vector field equation. There is also a question regarding the appropriate forms of P and Q in the context of Green's Theorem.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants exploring the implications of the integral form and questioning the values of P and Q. Some guidance has been offered regarding the integral structure, but no consensus has been reached on the specific values or methods to apply.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working within the constraints of the problem as posed, including the need to apply Green's Theorem correctly and the lack of a clear vector field equation to facilitate the double integral.

Mohamed Abdul

Homework Statement


Use Green's Theorem to find the area of the region between the x-axis and the curve parameterized by r(t)=<t-sin(t), 1-cos(t)>, 0 <= t <= 2pi

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The Attempt at a Solution



Using the parameterized curve, I have been able to locate the x boundaries between 0 and 2pi and the y boundaries between 0 and 1-cos(t). However, I do not know how to proceed with the double integral because I don't have the vector field equation. Can anyone help me out?
 

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Mohamed Abdul said:

Homework Statement


Use Green's Theorem to find the area of the region between the x-axis and the curve parameterized by r(t)=<t-sin(t), 1-cos(t)>, 0 <= t <= 2pi

Attached is a figure pertaining to the question

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The Attempt at a Solution



Using the parameterized curve, I have been able to locate the x boundaries between 0 and 2pi and the y boundaries between 0 and 1-cos(t). However, I do not know how to proceed with the double integral because I don't have the vector field equation. Can anyone help me out?

You want to end up with an integral of the form
$$ \int \int_D 1 \, dA, $$
so what does that tell you about ##P## and ##Q##?
 
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Ray Vickson said:
You want to end up with an integral of the form
$$ \int \int_D 1 \, dA, $$
so what does that tell you about ##P## and ##Q##?
Would P and Q just be 1 in that case?
 
Mohamed Abdul said:
Would P and Q just be 1 in that case?
You tell me. Do you get the right value of ##\partial Q/ \partial x - \partial P / \partial y##?
 

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