Question about the integral test

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The discussion revolves around determining the convergence or divergence of the series \(\sum 1/n^2 + 4\). Participants are exploring the implications of the P-series test and direct comparison test in relation to this series.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the use of the P-series test and direct comparison test to assess convergence. There is a focus on the interpretation of the series notation and the implications of the terms involved.

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The conversation includes various interpretations of the series notation, with some participants clarifying the correct expression. There is acknowledgment of errors in notation and a general agreement on the convergence of related series, though some confusion remains about the specific series in question.

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Participants note the importance of precise notation in mathematical expressions, particularly when using LaTeX formatting. There is an awareness of potential misunderstandings arising from notation errors.

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Homework Statement



We have to determine whether [itex]\sum 1/n^2 + 4[/itex]
is convergente or divergent

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I'm trying to work the problem through trigonometric substitution. I was wondering if I could just determine that by the P-series test, the function 1/n^2 will always be larger than the other one, since p is greater than 1 in this case, both are convergent.

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hi salazar888! welcome to pf! :smile:
salazar888 said:
I was wondering if I could just determine that by the P-series test, the function 1/n^2 will always be larger than the other one, since p is greater than 1 in this case, both are convergent

yes, always 0 < 1/(n2+4) < 1/n2,

the latter sum converges (from the p-series test), so so must the former (from the direct comparison test) :wink:
 
Obviously, since the series [itex]\sum \frac{1}{n^2}[/itex] converges, the sum you wrote, [itex]4 + \sum \frac{1}{n^2}[/itex] converges also.

RGV
 
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The series 1/n does not converge. It's the harmonic series. You read it wrong. I get what you're saying though.
 
I saw the error and edited it immediately.

RGV
 
Ray Vickson said:
Obviously, since the series [itex]\sum \frac{1}{n^2}[/itex] converges, the sum you wrote, [itex]4 + \sum \frac{1}{n^2}[/itex] converges also.

RGV
But the series
[tex]\sum\left(\frac{1}{n^2}+ 4\right)[/tex]
does NOT converge!
 
I agree, but that is not what he wrote. We all know he meant sum 1/(n^2 + 4), but he wrote sum (1/n^2) + 4, which is very different according to standard math expression padding rules. Since he was using 'tex' anyway, he should have been able to enter "{n^2+4}" as the second argument of the '\frac' command.

RGV
 
Yes it was my fault. I've only been on the forum for a couple of days. Thanks for the help guys. I will improve at typing the commands.
 

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