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The problem involves two point charges, one positive and one negative, located on the x-axis. The objective is to determine the point or points along the x-axis where the electric field is zero.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to find where the electric field equals zero, distinguishing it from the potential being zero. There are attempts to set up equations involving the electric field from both charges, with some participants suggesting the use of a test charge to analyze forces.

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Some participants have offered guidance on setting up the problem, including drawing diagrams and considering the vector nature of electric fields. There is an ongoing exploration of different approaches, but no consensus has been reached on a specific method to solve the problem.

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Participants express uncertainty about the correct application of formulas and the placement of a test charge in their calculations. There is mention of a teacher providing clarification, indicating that some participants are seeking additional support.

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Homework Statement



A charge of 5.00mC is at the point (1.00m, 0.00m) and a charge of -4.00 is at the point (-1.00m, 0.00m). At what point, or points, on the x-axis is E=0?


Homework Equations



I decided to use the equation for voltage and set it up like this:

E = 0 = (k)(Q1) / x + (k)(Q2) / x


I am attempting to use the x variable as my location on the x axis.


The Attempt at a Solution



When I work the problem like I have shown above, the only possible answer to the question is infinity, and I do not believe this to be the correct answer.

Thank you guys so much for any help. I have been looking at this for a long time and can't seem to get anywhere.

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You have to find the point where the electric field is 0. It is not necessarily the place where the potential is 0.

ehild
 
That makes sense to me but I am not sure where to go from there. Can you suggest a formula to do that? I am still not sure what to do with the problem.
 
What is the electric field intensity at a distance d from a point charge of q?

ehild
 
i think you are talking about E=kQ/r^2
 
how would i set that equal to zero?
 
Draw a diagram. Set the positions of both charges on the x axis. Assume a test charge q=1 somewhere on the x axis, and write the forces acting on it by both charges. The sum of these forces is zero somewhere. Find that position of the test charge.

ehild
 
ehild,

I am sorry to be so stubborn, but I still don't see how to come any closer to the answer. Let's say I put a test charge of 1.00 Coulomb at the position (3.00m, 0.00m).

Now the equation I will use will be:

E = KQ1/r2 + KQ2/r2

Going by this and using the numbers I have chosen for my test charge, I will have this:

E = (8.99E9 Nm2/C2)(-4.00E-3C)/16.00m2 + (8.99E9 Nm2/C2)(5.00E-3C)/4.00m2

Sadly I do not know where to put the test charge into the equation even though I am using it's location to distinguish the radius part of the problem.

I am not usually so dense, but I am not able to bring it together this time from just the hints you have given me. Do you think you have time to walk me through the solution?

Thanks for all your help,

Peacemaster
 
peacemaster said:
Now the equation I will use will be:

E = KQ1/r2 + KQ2/r2

Going by this and using the numbers I have chosen for my test charge, I will have this:

E = (8.99E9 Nm2/C2)(-4.00E-3C)/16.00m2 + (8.99E9 Nm2/C2)(5.00E-3C)/4.00m2

Sadly I do not know where to put the test charge into the equation even though I am using its location to distinguish the radius part of the problem.
You're looking for the location on the x-axis where E=0, right? If you placed the test charge in a different location, you'll calculate a different value of E. Somewhere on the x-axis, there's a point where E=0.

Your expression for E is not quite correct because you haven't taken into account the fact that the electric field is a vector. The electric field due to a positive charge points away from the charge; with a negative charge, the field points toward the charge. For instance, suppose you have a positive charge at x=0. At x=1, the field due to the charge would point in the +x direction. The field at x=-1 would have the same magnitude, but it would point in the -x direction.
 
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thanks for your help. i asked my teacher to work it with me today and he clarified.
 

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