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The discussion centers on the behavior of water when enclosed in a rigid, non-porous container, such as a block of concrete, and heated to extreme temperatures. It is established that water remains in a single phase as long as it is below its critical temperature, but once this threshold is exceeded, water transitions to a gas regardless of pressure. The critical temperature of water is approximately 374°C (647°F). If there is headspace in the container, water vapor can exist even at lower temperatures, and the presence of vapor will influence the phase changes as temperature increases.

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A QUESTION. Suppose I enclose water within a large noncombustible substance, say a block of concrete. The water is completely enclosed and sealed = no way for it to escape. Now, I heat the block. I get it very hot. At any temperature I can raise it to, will it still be just water at the ambient temperature? Suppose I could raise it to some enormous temperature, 10K, would it still be just...liquid water? If there was some extra room for the water to vaporize, would it then create steam at that temperature? I assume so! Is there any temperature I could raise it to so it would NOT be liquid water? What would that be?
 
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The water will remain a liquid for longer time...but as the temp. is raised it starts converting into a gas,a highly pressurised gas. If the temp. is raised even more then the block holding it would simply break and make way for the escaping gas, as gases tend to love free space.
 
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A QUESTION. Suppose I enclose water within a large noncombustible substance, say a block of concrete. The water is completely enclosed and sealed = no way for it to escape. Now, I heat the block. I get it very hot. At any temperature I can raise it to, will it still be just water at the ambient temperature?
What makes you think it will be at ambient temperature (20 C)?

If the block is rigid and non-porous, as the water becomes heated, it will remain a single phase, but its pressure will get higher.
Suppose I could raise it to some enormous temperature, 10K, would it still be just...liquid water?
At that temperature, it would no longer be considered liquid water (even though it stayed a single phase all the way up to that temperature). Once the temperature exceeded the critical temperature of water, the contents of the block would be considered a "gas."
If there was some extra room for the water to vaporize, would it then create steam at that temperature?
If there was head space to begin with, even at 20 C, there would be water vapor in the head space. Depending on the original proportions of liquid water and water vapor in the block, the water could expand to eliminate the vapor space, or the vapor space could continue to persist even up to temperatures approaching the critical temperature.
Is there any temperature I could raise it to so it would NOT be liquid water? What would that be?
If the temperature is above the critical temperature, no matter how high you increase the pressure, you will not be able to cause the water to condense.
 

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