Question on AP Physics C FRQ 2013. #3

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The forum discussion focuses on the AP Physics C Free Response Question (FRQ) from 2013, specifically question number 3, which involves torque and forces in equilibrium. Participants analyze the expressions used in the solution, particularly the equations 2Fa - mg = 0 and Fa + T - Mg = Ma. The discussion clarifies that the left rope's tension (T) is not equal to the applied force (Fa) due to the need for rotational equilibrium, emphasizing the importance of considering torque when forces are applied.

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Homework Statement


http://media.collegeboard.com/digitalServices/pdf/ap/apcentral/ap13_frq_physics_c_mechanics.pdf

The problem is above. It is number 3.

The solutions are below:
http://media.collegeboard.com/digit...entral/ap13_physics_cm_scoring_guidelines.pdf

Homework Equations


Torque= I * angular acceleration, F=ma

The Attempt at a Solution

My questions are the following:

Why do they in part a of the solution do the expression 2Fa-mg=0?
I understand that they have Fa acting on the object and mg, but why do they have the left rope's tension equal Fa?And then in part B, why do they have the expression Fa + T - Mg = Ma, meaning why do they have Fa != T. And then they substitute the T from the torque equation. Why is doing the problem in this manner necessary, with a separate value for T, which does not equal Fa?
 
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RoboNerd said:
Why do they in part a of the solution do the expression 2Fa-mg=0?
I understand that they have Fa acting on the object and mg, but why do they have the left rope's tension equal Fa?
You are told that the disk is at rest (in equilibrium).

In part B the disk is no longer in equilibrium.
 
Yeah, but when it is at equilibrium, then couldn't I just write it as Fa-mg = 0.

Maybe it is because the Fa is causing a torque on the right side and we need an equal force to counteract it from the left side to have sum of torques cancel?
 
RoboNerd said:
Yeah, but when it is at equilibrium, then couldn't I just write it as Fa-mg = 0.
That assumes the tension on the left segment is zero. And it wouldn't satisfy rotational equilibrium.

RoboNerd said:
Maybe it is because the Fa is causing a torque on the right side and we need an equal force to counteract it from the left side to have sum of torques cancel?
Right!
 
Yeah that makes sense. Thanks a lot!
 

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