Question on considering final velocity

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving an elevator and a bolt that comes loose while the elevator is moving upward. The original poster questions the reasoning behind not considering the final velocity of the bolt as zero when it reaches the bottom of the shaft.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to understand why the final velocity cannot be considered zero at the moment the bolt hits the bottom. They initially tried to use this assumption in their calculations.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring the reasoning behind the final velocity of the bolt, with some clarifying that the bolt's velocity does not reach zero until after it impacts the bottom of the shaft. Guidance has been offered regarding the appropriate context for analyzing the motion of the bolt.

Contextual Notes

The problem involves kinematic equations and the influence of gravity on the bolt's motion after it detaches from the elevator. There is an implicit understanding of the forces acting on the bolt before and after it strikes the bottom.

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Homework Statement



bolt comes loose underneath an elevator that is moving upward at a speed of 6.0 m/s and reaches the bottom in 3.0s . find how high above the bottom of the shaft it came loose and the speed of the bolt when it hits the bottom.

i figured out the problem but my question is why don't you consider the final velocity as 0 because when the bolt is on the bottom of the shaft there is no velocity? this is what i first tried to do when attempting to find the initial velocity but that is wrong...so i just wanted to know why i can't put v final as 0.


Homework Equations



vf=vo+at

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You are considering the motion of the bolt under the influence of gravity alone. So the 'final' velocity in your kinematic analysis should be the speed of the bolt just before it hits the floor of the elevator.

After it hits the floor of the elevator, other forces come into play.
 
Because the velocity of the bolt does not go to zero until after it has struck the bottom of the shaft.
 
thank you!
 

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