Question on Law conservation of Mechanical Energy

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The problem involves a roller coaster's motion, specifically analyzing the conservation of mechanical energy as it moves between different points (A, B, and C) at varying heights and speeds. The context includes calculating the height at point C based on given initial conditions and energy principles.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of conservation of energy principles, questioning the calculated height at point C and its relation to the heights at points A and B. Some participants explore the implications of the roller coaster's speed at different points and how it relates to height.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants raising questions about the assumptions made regarding the heights and speeds at various points. Some guidance on using energy conservation equations has been provided, but there is no consensus on the correctness of the height at point C.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding the expected height at point C in relation to point A, with participants questioning the diagram's implications and the calculations presented. The absence of friction and air resistance is noted as a condition for the problem.

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Homework Statement


Assuming no friction or air resistance, calculate the height at C if at point A, the roller coaster had a speed of 20 m/s, and height of 0.45 km. The height at point B is 0 m. The speed at C is 15.6m/s.

So basically the roller coaster starts from A which is 0.45 Km high and moves forward (down) with a speed of 20m/s and the roller coaster dips down to point B where the height is 0 m. Then the roller coaster goes up to point C.

Homework Equations


Eti = Etf (Initial mechanical energy = final mechanical energy)
Ek = mv^2/2
Eg= mgh
g= 9.80 m/s^2

The Attempt at a Solution



I used the the law of mechanical energy equation and had to find the velocity of point B to move on to find the height of point c.
So using the given information and the equations, I found that the velocity at point B is 96 m/s (rounded to significant digits)and using the velocity of Point B and the other information given I was able to determine that the height is 0.457 km a point C.

But... the height for point c seems wrong according the diagram.
I could be wrong but I think point c should be less than the height of point A, according to the diagram.
 
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LiveEz said:
But... the height for point c seems wrong according the diagram.
I could be wrong but I think point c should be less than the height of point A, according to the diagram.
I haven't checked your calculations, but why would you think that point C should be lower than point A? I assume point C is meant to be the highest point reached by the coaster?
 
Conservation of energy

1/2mv^2 + mgh = 1/2mv^2 + mgh

you can drop the mass out since the mass is constant. thus,

1/2v1^2 + gh1 = 1/2v2^2 +gh2

Use a and b to find the speed at b, and then b and c to find the height at c
 
C should be higher, since the velocity at C is less than the velocity at A you can infer that the car has passed it's initial point. Since it had an initial velocity of 20 m/s you would expect it to have a final velocity of 20 m/s when it reached the dame height on the other side. however, the velocity is lower stating that it has traveled passed the point of equal height and slowed down more.
 

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