Question on page 7 Flander's book on differential forms

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The discussion revolves around the characterization of linear functions on the space of p-vectors as presented in Flander's book, specifically focusing on the conditions outlined on page 7 and their relationship to the axioms for p-spaces discussed earlier in the text. Participants explore the implications of these properties, their proofs, and the underlying mathematical structures involved.

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  • One participant expresses confusion regarding the two conditions for linear functions on p-vectors and seeks clarification on their axiomatic characterization.
  • Another participant explains that the properties listed on page 6 characterize linear functions in terms of the components of p-vectors and provides a proof by calculation for the case of two vectors.
  • There is a suggestion that multilinear and alternating functions can serve as axioms for defining p-vectors, indicating a one-to-one correspondence between these functions and linear functions on p-vectors.
  • Some participants note that the transformation of multilinear maps into linear maps resembles the concept of a tensor product of vector spaces.
  • A later reply discusses the idea that the properties of functions f and g can characterize p-spaces, introducing the concept of a universal mapping property.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding and interpretation regarding the axiomatic characterization and the relationship between multilinear functions and p-vectors. There is no consensus on the implications of these properties or their proofs, indicating ongoing debate and exploration of the topic.

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Some participants reference specific properties and axioms without providing complete proofs, leading to potential gaps in understanding. The discussion also touches on the definitions and relationships between different mathematical structures, which may not be fully resolved.

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On page 7 it gives two conditions for a linear function on the space of p-vectors built from a linear function on the underlying L space. I do not understand! Does anybody ?
Then it continues by saying that the two properties are an axiomatic characterization on the space of p-vectors. So, if I understand correctly, the two properties above for linear functions are true iff the axioms for the p-space on page 5-6 are true? Correct? There's no proof. Does anybody know where I can find it?
 
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Goldbeetle said:
On page 7 it gives two conditions for a linear function on the space of p-vectors built from a linear function on the underlying L space. I do not understand! Does anybody ?
Then it continues by saying that the two properties are an axiomatic characterization on the space of p-vectors. So, if I understand correctly, the two properties above for linear functions are true iff the axioms for the p-space on page 5-6 are true? Correct? There's no proof. Does anybody know where I can find it?

The p-vectors form a vector space and satisfy - by definition - certain algebaic properties. These are tersely listed on page 6 - properties (i),(ii), and (iii).

These three properties allow one to characterize linear functions on this vector space in terms of the components of the p-vector. On page 7 he is saying - a linear map on the space of p vectors is a multilinear map on the product space, VxV...V ( p times)
that is also alternating. This you can just prove by calculation.

For instance, take the case of 2 vectors.

Keep in mind that f(as^t + bu^w) = af(s^t) + bf(u^w) because f is linear

f(u^w) = f(-w^u) because u^w = - w^u by (iii)
= -f(w^u) because f is linear. So f viewed as a function,g, of the product space VxV satisfies the relation g(v,w) = -g(w,v) i.e. g is alternating.

f(u^ax + by) = f(u^ax + u^by) = f(au^x + bu^y) by (i) and (iii)
= af(u^x) + bf(u^y) because f is linear. Thus g(u,ax+by) = ag(u,x) + bg(u,y) i.e. g is linear in the second variable. The exact same argument shows that g is also linear in the first variable. Thus g is multilinear.
 
Thanks. What about the axiomatic characterization?
 
Goldbeetle said:
Thanks. What about the axiomatic characterization?

Well if you start with a multilinear alternating function then it determines a linear function on p-vectors. So there is a 1-1 correspondence. This means that you can take multilinear and alternating as axioms.
 
Just to comment that this turning of multilinear maps in one space into linear maps
looks like a tensor product of vector spaces.
 
Bacle said:
Just to comment that this turning of multilinear maps in one space into linear maps
looks like a tensor product of vector spaces.

The tensor product may be defined exactly in this way.
 
Actually, what Flanders seems to say is that that property of f and g can be used as characterization of p-spaces, that is, for all and only p-spaces f and g are related has he says. Am I right? If so, how come?
 
Goldbeetle said:
Actually, what Flanders seems to say is that that property of f and g can be used as characterization of p-spaces, that is, for all and only p-spaces f and g are related has he says. Am I right? If so, how come?

The relation of f and g is called a universal a mapping property.

The p spaces are uniquely determined through the conversion of a multi-linear map on a vector space into a linear map on another vector space.
 

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