Question: what is the resistance forming spiral galaxies?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the mechanisms that contribute to the formation of spiral galaxies, specifically addressing whether external resistance or gravitational forces are responsible for the structure of spiral arms. The conversation touches on theoretical explanations and models related to galaxy dynamics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether external resistance or gravitational forces are responsible for the folding of spiral arms in galaxies.
  • Another participant describes Density Wave Theory, suggesting that regions of varying density within a galaxy influence the rotation and structure of spiral arms, with high-density areas slowing down angular velocity compared to low-density regions.
  • A later reply reiterates the Density Wave Theory, emphasizing that gravitational attraction between stars at different radii maintains the spiral pattern as they interact with density waves.
  • One participant notes that the spiral shape is a natural outcome of disturbances in the density distribution of stars, referencing the work of astronomers Lin and Shu.
  • A participant expresses uncertainty about the phrase "almost certainly," questioning the strength of the claim regarding the density-wave pattern.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple views on the mechanisms behind spiral galaxy formation, with some supporting Density Wave Theory while others express uncertainty about the claims made regarding its validity.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions underlying the discussion include the definitions of density regions and the implications of gravitational interactions, which may not be fully explored or agreed upon by all participants.

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Just looking at a spiral galaxy made me wonder if there was an external resistance causing the spiral arms to fold in on the structure or if the gravity at the centre of the galaxy was pulling the arms back in on itself. Please let me know!
 
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The prevailing theory of the mechanism behind sprial armed galaxies is known as Density Wave Theory. Within a given galaxy there are regions in which the average density is higher than the average density of the galaxy as a whole. As the galaxy rotates these high density areas "slow down" the overall angular velocity of the piece of the galaxy. The rarefied portions of the galaxy rotate at a faster rate than do these high density regions. When these low density regions meet the high density regions the gravitational attraction between stars at different radii is what actually keeps this spiral pattern once the objects have been sufficiently slowed down. For more in depth info check out Lin-Shu Density Wave Theory. This also helped answer the question of how do stars far from the core of a galaxy form. When the gas clouds pass these density waves, they get squeezed and compressed, sometimes enough to initiate thermo-nuclear fusion. Hope that helped.

Joe
 
Agent M27 said:
The prevailing theory of the mechanism behind sprial armed galaxies is known as Density Wave Theory. Within a given galaxy there are regions in which the average density is higher than the average density of the galaxy as a whole. As the galaxy rotates these high density areas "slow down" the overall angular velocity of the piece of the galaxy. The rarefied portions of the galaxy rotate at a faster rate than do these high density regions. When these low density regions meet the high density regions the gravitational attraction between stars at different radii is what actually keeps this spiral pattern once the objects have been sufficiently slowed down. For more in depth info check out Lin-Shu Density Wave Theory. This also helped answer the question of how do stars far from the core of a galaxy form. When the gas clouds pass these density waves, they get squeezed and compressed, sometimes enough to initiate thermo-nuclear fusion. Hope that helped.

Joe

My guess is that the Density Wave Theory reading will help answer my question...! Thank you.
 
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granpa said:
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The overall pattern is almost certainly the result of a general dynamical effect known as a density-wave pattern. The American astronomers Chia-Chiao Lin and Frank H. Shu showed that a spiral shape is a natural result of any large-scale disturbance of the density distribution of stars in a galaxy.

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/157996/density-wave-theory

¿Almost certainly?
 

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