Questions about Circuit Models of Transmission Lines

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The discussion centers on understanding the lumped element circuit model of transmission lines, particularly in the context of graduate-level electromagnetic theory. The circuit model represents a transmission line over a ground plane, where the top wire is identified as the transmission line and the bottom as ground. The arrangement of RLC components is explained as creating a low-pass filter due to the series inductance and parallel capacitance, which results in a cutoff frequency. The characteristic impedance of the transmission line is determined by its inductance and capacitance per unit length, with an emphasis on the need for a more detailed model to account for losses in real applications. The conversation highlights the importance of accurately modeling transmission lines to match impedances and optimize communication rates.
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Can someone explain lumped element circuit model of transmission lines please?
This is for my graduate EM Theory class. My background is physics/optics, so I was able to understand when we solved maxwells eqs. for waves propagating between parallel conducting plates, but that lead into the lumped element circuit model of transmission lines which I don't understand. I've attached the figure we used. My question is why does the circuit look this way? Do the two horizontal wires represent the two parallel plates, or is the top one the transmission line and the bottom one ground? And how do we know that the RLC components should be arranged in this way instead of some other way?
 

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The model you show is of a transmission line over a ground plane.
The line has inductance per unit length, and capacitance to ground per unit length.
Drawn as a ladder network, it makes a low-pass filter, with a very high cutoff frequency.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmission_line#Telegrapher's_equations

From the lumped model, you can determine the characteristic impedance and the velocity factor. Your lumped model has no resistance, so it is an ideal lossless line.
 
Baluncore said:
The model you show is of a transmission line over a ground plane.
The line has inductance per unit length, and capacitance to ground per unit length.
Drawn as a ladder network, it makes a low-pass filter, with a very high cutoff frequency.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmission_line#Telegrapher's_equations

From the lumped model, you can determine the characteristic impedance and the velocity factor. Your lumped model has no resistance, so it is an ideal lossless line.
So the top wire represents the transmission line and the bottom is ground? And why would a transmission line act as a lo pass filter?
 
stephen8686 said:
And why would a transmission line act as a lo pass filter?
Because a transmission line has a cutoff frequency, by virtue of the fact that it has series inductance, with parallel capacitance, distributed over its length.
 
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The lumped element circuit has a cut off frequency but a real line is continuous and does not. We need more LC sections to raise the cut off frequency of this equivalent circuit.
 
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Leon Brillouin wrote a beautiful little book called Wave Propagation in Periodic Structures that covers transmission lines from a physics perspective before moving on to waves (acoustic and optical) in crystals. With your background, it should be an enlightening read.
 
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stephen8686 said:
So the top wire represents the transmission line and the bottom is ground?
What you show is the model for an unbalanced transmission like, like coax cable. The lumped model for balanced transmission lines (like twisted pair or twin-lead cable) would have inductors in the lower/return leg as well.

The Characteristic Impedance ##Z_0## of a Transmission Line includes the inductance per unit length and the capacitance per unit length, so for a lossless TL that is all you need to include in the lumpted model. Then all you have to decide is how fine you want that model to be per unit length (per meter, for example), based on the frequencies that you want to model propagating down that TL.

A better model includes the loss terms, because if you are trying to match a transmit impedance and a termination impedance to the TL, the loss terms and their effect on ##Z_0(f)## can be significant. In the twisted pair IoT world that I work in, this affects communication datarates in the 100kHz range, but not in the 10MHz range, for example.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Characteristic_impedance
 
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