Questions about using iteration to express a recurisve sequence

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This discussion focuses on using iteration to derive an explicit formula for a recursively defined sequence. The user initially struggles with recognizing patterns in the sequence, specifically in terms of the powers of 2 and 3. A key insight provided is that the sequence can be expressed as p_n = 2^n + 3^n + (2^{n-2} 3^2 + 2^{n-3} 3^3 + ... + 2^1 3^{n-1}), where the latter part forms a geometric series. The conversation emphasizes the importance of identifying geometric series and understanding the relationship between terms to derive the formula.

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Hello everyone, I'm having some issues on a few problems and I'm not sure if i did the first one I'm going to post right, any help or clarifcation would be great.

The directions are: In eavch of 3-15 a sequence is defined recursively. Use iteration to guess an explicit formula for the sequence.

and here is my work:
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/8013/scan0001pa5.jpg



For the last one, I see that the 2 is increasing at the same rate as the 3^k, but i have no idea about the pattern, I'm not sure what technique I'm suppose to use, i know they said "guess" a formula, but what will help me make an educated guess? Of course there are some easy ones like n! that i can recongize but these arn't so easy for me to see what's going on.

I can see i can factor out a 2 and a 3^2 from p_4 but i don't see how that is going to help me much, getting:
2^4 + 3^4 + 2*3^2(1 + 3)

thanks!
 
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You made a bit of an arithmetic mistake: that should be 2^2 3^2, not 2^1 3^2. If you continue on I think you'll notice that p_n = 2^n + 3^n + \left( 2^{n-2} 3^2 + 2^{n-3} 3^3 +...+ 2^1 3^{n-1} \right). That stuff in parentheses is a geometric series.
 
Thanks durt!
I'm alittle confused on how you got some of the terms of n
p_n = 2^n + 3^n + \left( 2^{n-2} 3^2 + 2^{n-3} 3^3 +...+ 2^1 3^{n-1} \right)

But the parts of it I don't understand is how do you know after looking at a few terms, like a_1 to a_4 how you figure out which exponents go to a certian power, such as 2^{n-2} 3^2 + 2^{n-3} 3^3 +...+ 2^1 3^{n-1} ?

I see that 2^n + 3^n would be just n because they are increasing at the same time, but from there what's the process to break that down into the other powers of n?

Thanks

Also I could replace that geometric series with the following sum right?
First term is 2^{n-2} 3^2
ratio is: 3/2 I believe because 2 is decreasing and 3 is increasing as you progress
term after the last term is: 3/2* 2^1 3^{n-1} = 3^{n-2}

so now applying a formula:
[mythical next term - first term]/(ratio-1)
= ( 3^{n-2} - 2^{n-2} 3^2 )/(3/2 -1)
 
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