Quick question about raising and lowering operators (ladder operators)

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The discussion centers on understanding the transition from one equation to two others involving ladder operators in quantum mechanics. The confusion arises over the disappearance of the imaginary unit 'i' when multiplying by a constant. Participants clarify that the right-hand side of the derived equation matches the text, barring a constant factor. There is criticism of the initial derivation method, emphasizing that operators cannot be treated like ordinary variables. The conversation highlights the importance of recognizing the dimensionality of the operators involved.
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Reading through my QM text, I came across this short piece on ladder operators that is giving me trouble (see picture). What I am struggling with is how to get to equations 2 and 3 from equation 1.

Can someone point me in the right direction? Where does the i infront of the x go?
 

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Hi PhysicsGirl90! :smile:
PhysicsGirl90 said:
Where does the i infront of the x go?

It disappeared when they multiplied the whole thing by the constant i/√(ωh) :wink:
 
Hey tiny-tim,

Thanks for your suggestion. I tried it but i get stuck trying to get the same equation as the text. I have included what i got so far in the picture. Can you give it a look and tell me what I am doing wrong?
 

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Hey PhysicsGirl90! :smile:

(just got up :zzz:)

the RHS of what you got is the same as in the text :wink:

(apart from a constant, and you can always multiply an eigenvector by any constant!)
 
This is a very sloppy "derivation" of the ladder operators. First of all
Simple algebraic factoring yields two roots
is not correct, since \hat{x} and \hat{p} are operators. (By the way, it should be d/dx, not d/d\hat{x}.) You can get inspiration from what algebraic factoring would give, if these were ordinary variables, in order to investigate operators that look like the roots. But a_+ and a_- are not "derived" this way.

You can also notice that \hat{X} = \sqrt{\frac{m \omega}{\hbar}} \hat{x} and \hat{P} = \frac{1}{\sqrt{m \hbar \omega}} \hat{p} are dimensionless.
 
Thanks again tiny-tim and thank you DrClaude for your help
 

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