Quick question on real analysis proof

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The problem involves demonstrating that the sequence of functions defined by ##x(1-x), x^2(1-x),...## converges uniformly on the interval ##[0,1]##. The original poster seeks clarification on a specific inequality related to the proof.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster questions why the inequality ##\left ( \frac{n}{n+1}\right )^n < 1## holds true. Some participants provide a formal proof of this inequality and explore alternative reasoning involving limits.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's question, providing different methods to understand the inequality. There is recognition that one participant's proof is clearer, and others are considering the implications of limits in their reasoning.

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Some participants note that the proof must hold for all ##n > N##, indicating a constraint on the applicability of certain limit-based arguments.

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Homework Statement



Show that the sequence of functions ##x(1-x), x^2(1-x),...## converges uniformly on ##[0,1].##

2. The attempt at a solution

I have a quick question. For the following proof why is ##\left ( \frac{n}{n+1}\right )^n < 1##?

Proof:

We need to prove that, given ##\epsilon > 0##, there exists an ##N## such that for every ##n > N## and for every ##x \in[0, 1]##, we have ##|x^n(1 - x)-0| < \epsilon.##

##x^n## and ##(1-x)## are both continuous functions. Now ##x^n(1 - x)## has a maximum on ##[0, 1]## at $x=\frac{n}{1+n}$ since ##\frac{d}{dx}[x^n(1-x)] = -x^n +nx^{n-1}-nx^n = -x-nx+n## thus ##x=\frac{n}{1+n}##.

Then ##|x^n(1-x)|<(\frac{n}{n+1})^n(\frac{1}{n+1})<\frac{1}{n+1}<\epsilon.## Choose ##N = \frac{1-\epsilon}{\epsilon}## therefore for ##n>N## we have ##|x^n(1-x)|<\epsilon.##

Why is ##\left ( \frac{n}{n+1}\right )^n < 1##?
 
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I think that's pretty obvious, but one can of course formally prove it:
0&lt;1 \; \Rightarrow \; n&lt;n+1.
Now since n+1&gt;0 you have
\frac{n}{n+1}&lt;1.
Now multiplying this with n/(n+1) gives
\left (\frac{n}{n+1} \right )^2 &lt; \frac{n}{n+1}&lt;1,
and in this way you can prove that
\left (\frac{n}{n+1} \right )^k&lt;1
for all k \in \mathbb{N}. Setting k=n gives the inequality you asked for.
 
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vanhees71 - Thanks, that is a nice way to prove it!

Is there another way, for example something similar ##\lim_{n\to \infty}(\frac{n}{n+1})^n <1## implies ##\lim_{n\to \infty} \left(1+\frac{1}{n}\right)^n = e > 1##? Or am I wrong?
 
It has to be valid for all n>N thus your exponential limit is not going to work here.
 
Dirk-mec1 - So I can't use that? Vanhees71 proof will suffice?
 
Lee33 said:
vanhees71 - Thanks, that is a nice way to prove it!

Is there another way, for example something similar ##\lim_{n\to \infty}(\frac{n}{n+1})^n <1## implies ##\lim_{n\to \infty} \left(1+\frac{1}{n}\right)^n = e > 1##? Or am I wrong?
You have that backwards. The limit
$$\lim_{n\to \infty} \left(1+\frac{1}{n}\right)^n = e$$ implies that
$$\lim_{n\to \infty} \left(\frac{n}{n+1}\right)^n = \frac{1}{e} < 1.$$ You can probably use this fact in an indirect way for your needs. You know that if ##n## is large enough, ##\left(\frac{n}{n+1}\right)^n## will necessarily be less than 1 because the sequence approaches 1/e. With a suitable choice for ##N##, you will get the result you need. But why would you want to do that? The proof vanhees provided is much clearer and direct.
 
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Vela - Thanks and you're right, vanhees proof is a lot more clear! Thanks for all the help.
 

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