Quick Solution for a2 + a2 = (a + 1)2: Find a!

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The discussion revolves around solving the equation a² + a² = (a + 1)², which involves algebraic manipulation and simplification. Participants are exploring the implications of the equation within the context of quadratic equations.

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  • Participants discuss expanding both sides of the equation and simplifying terms. There is a debate about the correctness of the expansion of (a + 1)² and the resulting quadratic equation. Some participants question the validity of negative solutions in the context of the problem.

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Some participants have arrived at a solution and identified the roots of the quadratic equation. However, there remains a discussion about the nature of the solutions, particularly regarding the acceptability of negative values in the context of the problem.

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One participant notes that the problem relates to determining the lengths of sides of a triangle, which cannot be negative, influencing the interpretation of the solutions.

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just looking for a quick solution for my equation, seems like my head is just working the wrong way coz I know it's not a hard one:

a2 + a2 = (a + 1)2

a = ?
 
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a2+a2=2a2
expand the right side and then simplify.
 
i don't believe that (a + 1)(a + 1) is 2a2
shouldn't that give a2 + 2a +1 ??
 
a^{2} + a^{2} = (a+1)^{2} simplifies to a^{2} + a^{2} = a^{2} + 2a + 1 which when you move everything over to one side becomes a^{2} - 2a - 1 = 0 which is easy enough to solve. Not sure how rock.freak got what he did.
 
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rock.freak667 said:
a2+a2=2a2
expand the right side and then simplify.

I'm sure he was simplifying the left side (how much simpler can it be?). Then he said expand the RHS and rearrange to solve.
 
solved it now

a2 + a2 = a2 + 2a + 1

simplified it to a quadraticequation

0 = -a2 + 2a + 1

a1 = 1 + sq.root of 2
a2 = 1 - sq.root of 2

a2 is negative therefore a1 is the right answer

which gives a = 2,41
 
eskil said:
solved it now

a2 + a2 = a2 + 2a + 1

simplified it to a quadraticequation

0 = -a2 + 2a + 1

a1 = 1 + sq.root of 2
a2 = 1 - sq.root of 2

a2 is negative therefore a1 is the right answer

which gives a = 2,41

Why can't a be negative?

On the LHS you had a^{2} + a^{2} = (1 - \sqrt{2})^{2} + (1 - \sqrt{2})^{2} = 1 - 2 \sqrt{2} + 2 + 1 - 2 \sqrt{2} + 2 = 6 - 4 \sqrt{2}

However on the RHS you had (a+1)^{2} = (1 - \sqrt{2} + 1)^{2} = (2 - \sqrt{2})^{2} = 4 - 4 \sqrt{2} + 2 = 6 - 4 \sqrt{2}

Note also that the "simpler" way to do this would be to rewrite it as

2a^{2} = (a+1)^{2} \Rightarrow \sqrt{2} |a| = |a + 1| and examine the appropriate regions to get rid of | |.
 
The reason why it cannot be negative is that the origin of the problem was to determine the length of all sides of a likesided triangle thus can't be negative.

I still think that using the quadratic equation is the simplest way of solving it.
 

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