Radio Receiver problem (Path length difference)

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a radio receiver tracking a satellite signal, focusing on the periodic variation in signal intensity as the satellite rises above the horizon. The context includes calculating the wavelength of the satellite signal based on the angles of maximum intensity observed at specific degrees above the horizon.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between the path length difference of direct and reflected signals and how it relates to the observed angles of maximum intensity. There are questions about the specific variables used in the equations and the interpretation of the data provided.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the calculations and the geometric interpretation of the problem, while others are seeking clarification on the equations and variables involved. There is an ongoing exploration of the path difference and its implications for the wavelength calculation.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the angles correspond to consecutive maxima, and there is mention of the assumption that the incoming signal can be treated as parallel due to the distance of the satellite. Some calculations have been attempted, but discrepancies in results have been highlighted.

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Homework Statement



A radio receiver is set up on a mast in the middle of a calm lake to track the radio signal from a satellite orbiting the Earth. As the satellite rises above the horizon, the intensity of the signal varies periodically. The intensity is at a maximum when the satellite is 1 = 3° above the horizon and then again at 2 = 6° above the horizon. What is the wavelength of the satellite signal? The receiver is h = 4.0 m above the lake surface.

Homework Equations



r=dsin(theta)
(theta)m = m*(lambda/d)
y=L*tan(theta)

ym = (m*lambda*L)/d

The Attempt at a Solution


i know that the radio signal acts like light as it is reflected off the lake and the signal path length difference of the signal directly and the signal off the lake will give me the path length difference but the lambda solution i got was off according to my teacher.
 
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Interesting problem. I had no idea how to approach it until you mentioned the reflected waves constructively interfering with the direct waves. So, no diffraction involved, just a matter of finding the hypotenuse of a triangle. Did you get about 75 m for the wavelength? I don't follow your equations, don't know what n, L, theta, ym and d are.
 
Show your work, please, with a drawing attached.

ehild
 
Delphi51 said:
Did you get about 75 m for the wavelength? I don't follow your equations, don't know what n, L, theta, ym and d are.
There are enough data given. The two angles belong to consecutive maxima. The incoming light beam can be considered parallel as the satellite is very far away. The path difference between the directly incident ray and the reflected ray has to be calculated at the given angles, see picture.

ehild
 

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Thanks again, ehild. I had the diagram but forgot to subtract AB from AC.
The path difference works out to a wavelength of about 40 cm at 3 degrees and exactly twice as much at 6 degrees.
 
"The intensity is at a maximum when the satellite is 1 = 3° above the horizon and then again at 2 = 6° above the horizon"

The path difference is equal to m*lambda for the first angle and (m+1)*lambda for the next one. :)

ehild
 

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