Radius of Convergence Power Series

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The discussion revolves around determining the radius of convergence and the interval of convergence for a given power series involving the term \((2x-3)^{n}\) divided by \(\ln(2n+3)\). Participants are exploring the application of the Ratio Test to analyze convergence properties.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of the Ratio Test and express uncertainty about handling the logarithmic term in the limit. There are attempts to set up the interval of convergence based on the derived inequalities, and questions arise regarding the behavior of the series at the endpoints.

Discussion Status

Some participants have proposed potential intervals of convergence and are checking the endpoints separately. There is ongoing exploration of convergence at specific values of \(x\), with references to the alternating series test and comparison tests being suggested for further analysis.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the need to check the convergence at the endpoints of the interval, with some expressing confusion about the divergence of the series at \(x=2\) despite initial assumptions of convergence. The conversation reflects a mix of interpretations and approaches to the problem.

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Homework Statement



Determine the radius of convergence and the interval of convergence og the folling power series:

n=0 to infinity
Ʃ=[itex]\frac{(2x-3)^{n}}{ln(2n+3)}[/itex]

Homework Equations



Ratio Test

The Attempt at a Solution


Well I started with the ratio test but I have no clue where to go with it

[itex]\frac{(2x-3)^{n+1}}{ln(2(n+1)+3)}[/itex] * [itex]\frac{ln(2n+3)}{(2x-3)^{n}}[/itex]

I know that I will be left with the 2x-3 and I can pull that out in front of the limit to use when doing the interval of convergence, but I am lost with the natural log. should I distribute the two and make it

[itex]\frac{(2x-3)^{n+1}}{ln(2n+5)}[/itex] * [itex]\frac{ln(2n+3)}{(2x-3)^{n}}[/itex]

2x-3 Lim as n approaches infinity of : ln(2n+3)-ln(2n+5)??

Any help would be appreciated
 
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xspook said:

Homework Statement



Determine the radius of convergence and the interval of convergence og the folling power series:

n=0 to infinity
Ʃ=[itex]\frac{(2x-3)^{n}}{ln(2n+3)}[/itex]

Homework Equations



Ratio Test

The Attempt at a Solution


Well I started with the ratio test but I have no clue where to go with it

[itex]\frac{(2x-3)^{n+1}}{ln(2(n+1)+3)}[/itex] * [itex]\frac{ln(2n+3)}{(2x-3)^{n}}[/itex]

I know that I will be left with the 2x-3 and I can pull that out in front of the limit to use when doing the interval of convergence, but I am lost with the natural log. should I distribute the two and make it

[itex]\frac{(2x-3)^{n+1}}{ln(2n+5)}[/itex] * [itex]\frac{ln(2n+3)}{(2x-3)^{n}}[/itex]

2x-3 Lim as n approaches infinity of : ln(2n+3)-ln(2n+5)??

Any help would be appreciated

The limit of ##\frac{ln(2n+3)}{ln(2n+5)}## as n goes to infinity is just 1.

Can you continue?

EDIT : It might be informative to wrap your limit in an absolute value.
 
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Thanks,

let me solve and see what I get
 
So I can now set up the interval of convergence to be

-1 < 2x-3 < 1
1 < x < 2

so any number between 1 and two will cause the series to converge

now i have to check endpoints separately

x:1 Ʃ=[itex]\frac{(2x-3)^{n}}{ln(2n+3)}[/itex]
[itex]\frac{(-1)^{n}}{ln(2n+3)}[/itex] which is an alternating series

the limit is 0 and it is also decreasing

X:2 Ʃ=[itex]\frac{(2x-3)^{n}}{ln(2n+3)}[/itex]
[itex]\frac{(1)^{n}}{ln(2n+3)}[/itex]

this limit is also 0

so the interval is [1,2]?

Radius of convergence would be [itex]\frac{1}{2}[/itex]?

EDIT: when x=2 I feel like I have to do something different for solving for the limit? Or is it correct?
 
xspook said:
So I can now set up the interval of convergence to be

-1 < 2x-3 < 1
1 < x < 2

so any number between 1 and two will cause the series to converge

now i have to check endpoints separately

x:1 Ʃ=[itex]\frac{(2x-3)^{n}}{ln(2n+3)}[/itex]
[itex]\frac{(-1)^{n}}{ln(2n+3)}[/itex] which is an alternating series

the limit is 0 and it is also decreasing

X:2 Ʃ=[itex]\frac{(2x-3)^{n}}{ln(2n+3)}[/itex]
[itex]\frac{(1)^{n}}{ln(2n+3)}[/itex]

this limit is also 0

so the interval is [1,2]?

Radius of convergence would be [itex]\frac{1}{2}[/itex]?

EDIT: when x=2 I feel like I have to do something different for solving for the limit? Or is it correct?

Your radius of convergence is what you get from the calculation of ##lim_{n→∞} |\frac{a_{n+1}}{a_n}| = L##.

If L is finite, then your radius of convergence is 1/L.
If L is 0, then your radius of convergence is ∞.
If L = ∞, then your radius of convergence is 0.

Since you got 1 as the limit, the radius is R = 1/1 = 1. So your series will converge for |2x-3| < 1, aka 1 < x < 2. So you're doing good.

So now to get a concrete interval of convergence, you need to check the endpoints.

At x = 1, it looks like your series is conditionally convergent.

At x = 2, it appears your series diverges. Could you tell me why?

What's your interval now?
 
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At x = 2, I don't know why it is divergent. I thought it was convergent to zero. If it isn't convergent the interval would become [1,2)
 
xspook said:
At x = 2, I don't know why it is divergent. I thought it was convergent to zero. If it isn't convergent the interval would become [1,2)

Okay good about the interval. In the case of x=2, can you compare your series to anything? Think about minimizing the denominator.
 
Basically we have

[itex]\frac{1}{ln(2n+3)}[/itex]

The limit of ln(2n+3) is ∞. [itex]\frac{1}{∞}[/itex] = 0

is there something I am missing?
 
xspook said:
Basically we have

[itex]\frac{1}{ln(2n+3)}[/itex]

The limit of ln(2n+3) is ∞. [itex]\frac{1}{∞}[/itex] = 0

is there something I am missing?

You're missing the whole picture.

Why are you taking limits? All you have to do is check the convergence of your series at the endpoints.

So when you did x = 1. You saw ##\sum |a_n|## diverged, but ##\sum (-1)^na_n## converges by the alternating series test, so it was conditionally convergent.

Now when x = 2. You don't need the A.S.T. It's quite literally a simple comparison.
 
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  • #10
How about:

If I use the comparison test for
[itex]\frac{1}{ln(2n+3)}[/itex] and compare with [itex]\frac{1}{n}[/itex]

[itex]\frac{1}{n}[/itex] is a divergent p series
using the comparison test, [itex]\frac{1}{ln(2n+3)}[/itex] is also divergent?
 
  • #11
xspook said:
How about:

If I use the comparison test for
[itex]\frac{1}{ln(2n+3)}[/itex] and compare with [itex]\frac{1}{n}[/itex]

[itex]\frac{1}{n}[/itex] is a divergent p series
using the comparison test, [itex]\frac{1}{ln(2n+3)}[/itex] is also divergent?

Yes that's the idea.
 
  • #12
Thank you Zondrina!
 
  • #13
My professor gave me a 4 out of 10 possible points...he passed out the solutions to the problems and oddly enough I have the same answer.
 

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