Railway truck impulse physics homework

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The problem involves a collision between two railway trucks, one traveling east and the other west, with a focus on calculating the speed of one truck after the collision using the concept of impulse.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the application of impulse and the direction of velocities, questioning the signs used in their calculations. There is confusion regarding the correct interpretation of the impulse's direction and its effect on the resulting equations.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the importance of consistent sign conventions when dealing with vectors. There is an ongoing exploration of the calculations involved, with some participants expressing uncertainty about their results.

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Participants are navigating the implications of sign conventions in their calculations and the impact of impulse direction on their results. There is a mention of a mark scheme that presents a different approach to the problem.

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A railway truck S of mass 2000 kg is traveling due east along a straight horizontal track with constant speed 12 m s–1. The truck S collides with a truck T which is traveling due west along the same track as S with constant speed 6 m s–1. The magnitude of the impulse of T on S is 28 800 Ns.


Calculate the speed of S immediately after the collision


My calculation goes:

28800 = 2000(v-12)

However, the markscheme has it as 28800 = 2000(12-v)

Both of these clearly yield different solutions. Is it due to the fact that the impulse is in fact -28800 (minus 28800)? How would one know that though?

Thanks
 
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Did you take into account that you take one direction as +ve and the other as -ve (i.e. take all vectors going due east as +ve and all due west as -ve)?
 
nokia8650 said:
Both of these clearly yield different solutions. Is it due to the fact that the impulse is in fact -28800 (minus 28800)?
Yes.
How would one know that though?
By being careful with your signs. Let's call east to be positive. Thus the initial speed of S is + 12 m/s. The impulse is negative, since it must point west.

It doesn't matter whether you call east positive or negative. As long as you're consistent, you'll get the same answer for the speed.
 
Thanks a lot, I understand now.
 


so what is the answer guys?
 


mighty jk said:
so what is the answer guys?
That's for you to figure out.
 


pleasezzzzz doc I am so stuck pleasezzzzzzzzzzzz
 


mighty jk said:
pleasezzzzz doc I am so stuck pleasezzzzzzzzzzzz
Show what you did so far.
 


28800=2000 (12-v)
28800=24000-2000v
4800=2000v
2800=v

is the right?
 
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mighty jk said:
28800=2000 (12-v)
28800=24000-2000v
4800=2000v
2800=v

is the right?
It was OK until the last line. (Divide, don't subtract.)
 
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ty dude u rock=P
 

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