Rain Collection: Does Wind Affect Filling Speed?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the effect of wind on the rate at which rainwater fills a collection bucket. Participants explore the relationship between wind speed, raindrop trajectory, and the dynamics of rain collection, considering both theoretical and practical implications.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the rate of filling a bucket with rainwater is influenced by wind, suggesting that wind may increase the amount of rain collected due to changes in raindrop velocity.
  • Another participant argues that if raindrops fall at a 45-degree angle due to wind matching their vertical velocity, the effective separation between raindrops and the cross-sectional area of the bucket both decrease at the same rate, implying that wind does not affect the filling rate.
  • This same participant notes that if raindrops were to be blown horizontally or upwards by strong winds, it could prevent the bucket from filling altogether.
  • A later reply raises a hypothetical scenario where wind blows horizontally while rain continues to fall, questioning whether this could lead to an infinite quantity of water being supported by the airstream.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the impact of wind on rain collection, with some suggesting it has a significant effect while others argue it does not. The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple competing perspectives presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss various assumptions regarding raindrop behavior, wind speed, and the geometry of rain collection, but these assumptions are not universally agreed upon and may limit the conclusions drawn.

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suppose rain water is being collected in bucket. does the rate at which it fill depend on wind?
 
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Do you get wet faster on a very windy day??

Freefalling rain has some modest terminal velocity...that can easily be exceeded on a windy day delivering more rain per unit area.
 
No.

Say your raindrops were separated by 1 cm as they fell vertically. Then say the wind speed matched the vertical velocity of the raindrops. The raindrops would fall at a 45 degree angle.

If you're measuring the separation between raindrops perpendicular to their path, the path of the raindrops is now 1cm * cos(45). In other words, their paths are closer together.

Because the raindrops are falling at an angle, the cross-sectional diameter of the bucket decreases. Since the raindrops are falling at a 45 degree angle, the cross sectional diameter would be the diameter * cos(45).

The actual angle used (i.e. wind speed) won't matter, because you'll be multiplying by the cosine of the angle for both the separation between raindrops and the cross sectional diameter of the bucket.

In other words, both the separation and the cross sectional diameter are decreasing at exactly the same rate. As a result, you can completely ignore the effect of the wind and just look at the separation that would exist if they were falling vertically.

Now if the raindrops were falling straight down and you instead just tilted the bucket, then the bucket would fill at a slower rate because only the angle of the bucket relative to the raindrops was being changed - the raindrops would still be separated by a constant amount.

There is a limit to that, however. Conceivably, the wind could be blowing so hard the raindrops are moving horizontally or even rising (which is how hail forms, except at high altitudes where the temperature is colder). In that case, the bucket wouldn't fill at all.

And, to answer Naty's question - yes, you do get wetter on a windy day, since the surface area of the front of you is much larger than the surface area of the top of you. Well, at least unless you have some severe glandular problems and assume the shape of a sphere (see the "transversing in rain" thread).
 
Hold on,
Suppose the wind was blowing horizontally, but the rain continued to come into the airstream. Doesn't this imply that the airstream could support an infinite quantity of water?
 

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