News Ralph Nader's Only the Super-Rich Can Save Us

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Ralph Nader's book "Only the Super-Rich Can Save Us" presents a fictional vision where wealthy individuals unite to address societal issues, advocating for progressive change through activism. The discussion around the book reveals mixed feelings about Nader himself, particularly regarding his role in the 2000 presidential election, which some argue contributed to George W. Bush's victory. Critics express disappointment in Nader's perceived shift towards the super-rich, questioning his credibility as a champion of the common man. The conversation also touches on the broader political landscape, describing it as dominated by an "avaricious oligarchy" that prioritizes corporate interests. Participants debate the feasibility of Nader's ideas, with some suggesting that a coalition of wealthy progressives could indeed effect change, while others remain skeptical about the motivations of the super-rich. The dialogue reflects a tension between idealism and pragmatism in political activism, highlighting the complexities of Nader's legacy and the potential for collective action in addressing systemic issues.
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nismaratwork said:
It's just an example of how spin has devolved our language, and that in turn has devolved the capacity of people to discern the motives of groups and individuals. I see it as a sad state of affairs, but a clever (if immoral) use of manipulation.
Interestingly, the word "liberal" in Europe is still commonly used to mean someone who believes in unregulated free market capitalism. Some Europeans have remarked in this forum how strange they found it that Americans use the word to mean the opposite.

I normally avoid using the word at all, unless I use the phrase "classical liberal", which makes it clear I'm referring to Enlightenment style liberalism, ie socially and economically libertarian.

Of course I have yet to find an accurate word to describe the economic political philosophy of Democrats that isn't objected to.
 
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Al68 said:
Interestingly, the word "liberal" in Europe is still commonly used to mean someone who believes in unregulated free market capitalism. Some Europeans have remarked in this forum how strange they found it that Americans use the word to mean the opposite.

I normally avoid using the word at all, unless I use the phrase "classical liberal", which makes it clear I'm referring to Enlightenment style liberalism, ie socially and economically libertarian.

Of course I have yet to find an accurate word to describe the economic political philosophy of Democrats that isn't objected to.

It's a study in how labels are created and disseminated. It really is a deliberate matter that warps these words in the last few decades, so it's not simple linguistic drift. I think your choice to avoid the use of potentially misleading language is a wise one, unless the context is obvious.
 

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