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Ivan Seeking
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I see the real Shrek here and wonder if we are seeing the expression of Neanderthal genes.
Do we see the expression of those genes, and if so how?collinsmark said:The image is of Maurice Tillet and Dorian Leigh. Maurice Tillet is rumored to be the physical/appearance inspiration of the character Shrek (in the Shrek movies).
Regarding the Neanderthal genes inquiry: probably not. Tillet was diagnosed with acromegaly, a disorder that results from excess growth hormone. Neanderthal genes, on the other hand, are present in nearly all non-African modern humans. https://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/genetics/ancient-dna-and-neanderthals/interbreeding
Ivan Seeking said:Do we see the expression of those genes, and if so how?
The notion that we interbred with these guys is fascinating. And you have to wonder if this is an isolated case. Might we have potentially merged with other "failed" lines of human cousins, such as Homo Floresiensis.collinsmark said:Scientific consensus on this is presently rather fluid, since many of the discoveries are relatively new. A few years ago it was suspected that red hair was a result of Neanderthal genes, but now that's kinda doubtful.
Here's a relatively recent article:
https://www.science.org/news/2020/0...e-surprisingly-little-impact-your-looks-moods
Not only has Homo sapiens bred with Neanderthals as they left Africa via the Mid-East, but as they spread further they bred with the Denisovans as they moved further east. The Neanderthals were well known from fossils before their genome was sequenced, Denisovans were identified from as a separate species when a small finger bone (and maybe a tooth) were sequenced. Very few fossils have been found and identified as Denisovan.Ivan Seeking said:Might we have potentially merged with other "failed" lines of human cousins, such as Homo Floresiensis.
Yes.Ivan Seeking said:Is it possible in principle that genes from Neanderthals are manifest as genetic anomalies in humans today?
Funny thing about Floresiensis, the locals claim they were around recently enough that they interacted with them. The story is that the hobbits stole a baby and were ultimately nearly all were burned alive in their cave. But locals also claim to see them from time to time. And get this, one of the original researchers who made the discovery claimed to have seen a live hobbit! You have to think he was just working too hard and his mind was playing tricks.BillTre said:Probably not florensis I would think. They might be a miniaturized Australopithecus relative (much more different than a Neanderthal/Denisovan.
Uh oh, it looks like those women have eyes for you!morrobay said:The dynamic duo from Best Supermarket, Naklua. View attachment 289832View attachment 289833
Persistence wins the race. Good luck! They look cute.morrobay said:All show no go. Given my phone number to both of them. So far nada. So have to get back to you later on this.
Offer to take them both out on a perfectly innocent date.The novelty alone might peak their interest.morrobay said:All show no go. Given my phone number to both of them. So far nada. So have to get back to you later on this.
Laguna Beach... I used to go down to Thousand Steps Beach in S, Laguna back when it was private. We would go at night and jump the fence and camp on the beach. In the morning everyone assumed we were supposed to be there.morrobay said:That girl on the right is 23. It would help if I was 22 again like here in Laguna Beach. View attachment 290026
Has she put down her phone yet? LOL!morrobay said:Meanwhile back at the ranch
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Very sad, there was just a big oil spill a few miles off the coast from Huntington Beach. Huntington Beach is already getting hit hard. Not sure how far it is expected to spread.morrobay said:The photo of the blond and me was taken on Victoria beach approx in front of my grandparents house with the green roof. (postcard)* .And myself near rocks in postcard with speared fish. * The post card pre dates the photo of myself and blond. There is another beach house built next grandparents house.
Long story but grandparents house was moved half a lot North.
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It's a burden we just have to bear.morrobay said:Join the club
First time I hear about a pig named Donna.Ivan Seeking said:My first kiss was under a pig. Top that!
Her name was Donna. We were both in our prime - she was 4, I was 4 and a half.