Random Thoughts Part 5: Time to Split Again

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The discussion revolves around various topics, including a dream about a person named Borek, reflections on the book "The Martian," and the complexities of educational systems in the US and UK. Participants share insights on the long and short scales of numbers, particularly regarding the term "billion," and discuss the differences in high school and college education between the two countries. The conversation also touches on personal anecdotes, such as perfecting a Kung Pao sauce recipe and experiences with local disturbances. Overall, the thread showcases a blend of light-hearted personal stories and deeper discussions on education and cultural differences.
  • #451
Sophia said:
I don't understand why anyone would kill them or any other animal for no reason.

I never could understand that either, such a shame......:oldfrown:
 
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Is it right to assume that wind always acts in one direction for a long period of time? When I ride my bicycle I can feel the alternating direction of wind every 5-10 minutes or so.
 
  • #453
Sirsh said:
Is it right to assume that wind always acts in one direction for a long period of time?

Surprisingly, no; it would be a less than ideal assumption. (On small scales that is) :wink:

Wind on the surface of the Earth has a large amount of localized behavior. Don't forget that with most any system of airflow on scales less than around 100 km, it not only involves lateral direction, but also vertical directions at elevations higher than the surface itself: At elevations above ground sometimes the wind blows up and sometimes down!

And with that, the wind patterns form [3 dimensional] chaotic, pseudo-fractal type structures. The largest systems are the prevailing winds. Within the prevailing winds there substructures of high and low pressure centers that interact with each other to form even smaller structures with their own wind patterns. And within those smaller structures there are even smaller structures than that. [Edit: and the strength these different levels vary too, depending on other conditions, meaning some days there will be steady winds and other days nothing but gusts.]

The end result is, on a gusty day, that even though you might feel a strong breeze blowing, that breeze might not exist or might be in a completely different direction as little as a 100 meters away or so.

And these small patches are moving too. So they are not just localized in space, but they are themselves moving a little in space as time progresses.

When I ride my bicycle I can feel the alternating direction of wind every 5-10 minutes or so.

That doesn't surprise me, particularly since you are moving. You might be moving through one small, localized thermal and into another small system.

The concept is very important to sailing, and in particular sail-boat racing. In highly competitive sailboat racing it is not uncommon for a crew member to climb up the mast (even part way) to inspect the nearby areas of water. Patches of water that are less reflective (due to increased ripples) give an indication of where the wind is. Much of sailboat racing is a struggle to find those small patches of wind.
 
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  • #454
collinsmark said:
Surprisingly, no; it would be a less than ideal assumption. (On small scales that is) :wink:

Wind on the surface of the Earth has a large amount of localized behavior. Don't forget that with most any system of airflow on scales less than around 100 km, it not only involves lateral direction, but also vertical directions at elevations higher than the surface itself: At elevations above ground sometimes the wind blows up and sometimes down!

And with that, the wind patterns form [3 dimensional] chaotic, pseudo-fractal type structures. The largest systems are the prevailing winds. Within the prevailing winds there substructures of high and low pressure centers that interact with each other to form even smaller structures with their own wind patterns. And within those smaller structures there are even smaller structures than that. [Edit: and the strength these different levels vary too, depending on other conditions, meaning some days there will be steady winds and other days nothing but gusts.]

The end result is, on a gusty day, that even though you might feel a strong breeze blowing, that breeze might not exist or might be in a completely different direction as little as a 100 meters away or so.

And these small patches are moving too. So they are not just localized in space, but they are themselves moving a little in space as time progresses.
That doesn't surprise me, particularly since you are moving. You might be moving through one small, localized thermal and into another small system.

The concept is very important to sailing, and in particular sail-boat racing. In highly competitive sailboat racing it is not uncommon for a crew member to climb up the mast (even part way) to inspect the nearby areas of water. Patches of water that are less reflective (due to increased ripples) give an indication of where the wind is. Much of sailboat racing is a struggle to find those small patches of wind.

Very interesting, thank you for your knowledge on the subject.

Is this a large problem when it comes to wind turbine design?
 
  • #455
Sirsh said:
Very interesting, thank you for your knowledge on the subject.

Is this a large problem when it comes to wind turbine design?
This is random thoughts, if you have an interest in the topic, I suggest that you start a thread in the proper forum to discuss it. :smile:
 
  • #456
Evo said:
This is random thoughts, if you have an interest in the topic, I suggest that you start a thread in the proper forum to discuss it. :smile:

Apologizes, this was a random thought I had while I was reading and looking at how the trees go back and forth in the wind.
 
  • #457
Sirsh said:
Apologizes, this was a random thought I had while I was reading and looking at how the trees go back and forth in the wind.
In a sudden wind gust the tree will lean in the direction the wind pushes it.
That represents potential energy in the tree has increased.
after the wind gust drops the tree releases that energy mostly in an attempt to get back to somewhere near it's original position.
 
  • #458
Sirsh said:
Apologizes, this was a random thought I had while I was reading and looking at how the trees go back and forth in the wind.
That's ok, sometimes what starts as a random thought becomes an interesting thread.
 
  • #459
I saw an odd title for an article this morning; "Airstream trailer reconstructed as a tiny house"
As far as I can remember, Airstream trailers were tiny houses, to begin with.
 
  • #460
Psinter said:
Spiders are nothing but ultimate evil! Sorry, but we can't be friends. :-p I'm just kidding with you.

I like snakes and Amphibians. Amphibians are funny. Most are wet and gelatinous. I like to touch them.

This lady is awesome! Check it out: http://eugeniekitchen.com/rainbow-heart-cookies-eugenie/
Have you got any snakes or amphibians as pets? Some Cornsnake morphs have nice colours, eg. red, pink, purple or white with brown spots. They look really nice. But I would never touch them. :-)
Once I spent a few days googling about pet snakes because I was fascinated by the fact that some people have them so I wanted to learn more about it.

The rainbow hearts look cool! I really admire people who can create such things. It requires tons of patience and artistic talent which I totally lack :-)

Psinter said:
Spiders are nothing but ultimate evil! Sorry, but we can't be friends. :-p I'm just kidding with you.

I like snakes and Amphibians. Amphibians are funny. Most are wet and gelatinous. I like to touch them.

This lady is awesome! Check it out: http://eugeniekitchen.com/rainbow-heart-cookies-eugenie/
 
  • #461
I like you, :oldfrown: no not you! the other one!
 
  • #462
Silicon Waffle said:
I like you, :oldfrown: no not you! the other one!
The UK National Lottery uses (used?) The tagline "It could be you!" There was a TV comedian who ended a show once by pointing about thirty degrees away from camera and saying "...and remember: it could be you!" then turning to point directly at the camera and adding "...no, not you, don't be silly!" Sums up my feelings about the whole thing quite nicely.
 
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  • #463
When you ask your significant other where they want to go out to eat and they say "I don't care", now you know where to go. :oldwink:
 
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  • #464
Sophia said:
Have you got any snakes or amphibians as pets? Some Cornsnake morphs have nice colours, eg. red, pink, purple or white with brown spots. They look really nice. But I would never touch them. :-)
Once I spent a few days googling about pet snakes because I was fascinated by the fact that some people have them so I wanted to learn more about it.

The rainbow hearts look cool! I really admire people who can create such things. It requires tons of patience and artistic talent which I totally lack :-)
Nope. Never had pets like that. But I live in what could be considerably called a forest and behind my house there are always snakes. I once saw a purple snake and my automatic thought was: "It's so beautiful." Never before had I said the word "beautiful" with so much heart in it. I really felt "beautiful" was what described it. When it went away I felt very sad. I was in a gentle begging voice: "No, don't go... Please don't..." I hoped I could see it again, but I never saw it.

On the other hand there used to be a lot of small frogs. I used to catch them and touch them as a kid. But something I don't know is going on. They are disappearing as the years go by. Globular warming perhaps? They were wet and gelatinous. Haha, funny to touch them.

I also used to catch this salamander-like creatures. They also felt wet and gelatinous. But I think they are lizards, not amphibians. Those are still alive, their numbers haven't decreased. If you turn the light of some room at night, insects come, then the salamander-like creatures come as well to eat the insects. They have some kind of transparency blended with their color and you can see when they have eggs inside.
 
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  • #465
Wow, @Psinter , there is no way that anything I write after your post does not come off as completely trite.
 
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  • #466
But anyway, it is Random Thoughts after all. My investment in heavy duty boots paid off, stepping on poodles of water with no consequence --and the boots were cheap, from a going out of business sale. And winter is always a good time to enjoy the soup places around.
 
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  • #467
WWGD said:
Wow, @Psinter , there is no way that anything I write after your post does not come off as completely trite.
:DD To be honest I had to search for the definition of "trite".
 
  • #468
Psinter said:
:DD To be honest I had to search for the definition of "trite".
Don't worry, it is an unnecessarily complicated word; could have just used "trivial" instead.
 
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WWGD said:
Don't worry, it is an unnecessarily complicated word; could have just used "trivial" instead.
"Trivial" might cause allergic reactions to some of us. Would be interesting how many hours on average are spent on "trivial", "obvious", "clearly" or "as easily can be shown".
 
  • #470
fresh_42 said:
"Trivial" might cause allergic reactions to some of us. Would be interesting how many hours on average are spent on "trivial", "obvious", "clearly" or "as easily can be shown".
You could say that again. Specially when programming:

"It was a trivial bug, yet it took me how many hours to fix?"
 
  • #471
Psinter said:
You could say that again. Specially when programming:

"It was a trivial bug, yet it took me how many hours to fix?"
A bug? Not a transparent snake?
 
  • #472
WWGD said:
A bug? Not a transparent snake?
I don't get it.
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Telescopes everywhere!
How-Much-Does-A-Good-Telescope-cost.jpg


That's great Google! Now, what are my financing options?
 
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  • #473
Psinter said:
I don't get it.
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Telescopes everywhere!
How-Much-Does-A-Good-Telescope-cost.jpg


That's great Google! Now, what are my financing options?

Just referring to your post on snakes, the "non-trite" one
 
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Hell, THAT's what I call a starter kit!
 
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  • #475
Psinter said:
That's great Google! Now, what are my financing options?
Can I find it on amazon or what!?
 
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  • #476
fresh_42 said:
Hell, THAT's what I call a starter kit!
Wonder if Elon Musk will put out something similar soon.
 
  • #477
I'd be slightly worried about the delivery options. "You weren't in when we tried to deliver, so we left your package in the crater where your house used to be."
 
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  • #478
Ibix said:
I'd be slightly worried about the delivery options. "You weren't in when we tried to deliver, so we left your package in the crater where your house used to be."
Deliver person would likely throw it at the door too!
 
  • #479
Greg Bernhardt said:
Deliver person would likely throw it at the door too!
Which would certainly be a good idea! I mean, to keep it in free fall ...
 
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  • #480
Psinter said:
Nope. Never had pets like that. But I live in what could be considerably called a forest and behind my house there are always snakes. I once saw a purple snake and my automatic thought was: "It's so beautiful." Never before had I said the word "beautiful" with so much heart in it. I really felt "beautiful" was what described it. When it went away I felt very sad. I was in a gentle begging voice: "No, don't go... Please don't..." I hoped I could see it again, but I never saw it.

On the other hand there used to be a lot of small frogs. I used to catch them and touch them as a kid. But something I don't know is going on. They are disappearing as the years go by. Globular warming perhaps? They were wet and gelatinous. Haha, funny to touch them.

I also used to catch this salamander-like creatures. They also felt wet and gelatinous. But I think they are lizards, not amphibians. Those are still alive, their numbers haven't decreased. If you turn the light of some room at night, insects come, then the salamander-like creatures come as well to eat the insects. They have some kind of transparency blended with their color and you can see when they have eggs inside.
Psinter, what a beautiful post! There's so much feeling in it. You have such a gift for observation.
You should write a book.
 
  • #481
Psinter said:
:DD To be honest I had to search for the definition of "trite".
Me too :-)
 
  • #482
Sophia said:
Me too :-)
Now you both should look up the definition of "tripe" so you don't get it confused with "trite."
 
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  • #483
WWGD said:
I didn't eve know (some) spiders were poisonous.
word play, he mean't venomous :)
 
  • #484
Of itself the human mind has no power greater than self deception. Hence the revolutionizing utility of the scientific method.

Lew's Corollary, Virtually everyone is clueless as to their actual motivations, hence the human condition.

Appropriate sources: An objective reading of the history of "civilization".
 
  • #485
zoobyshoe said:
Now you both should look up the definition of "tripe" so you don't get it confused with "trite."
tribe?
 
  • #486
Trust me, "tripe" is a gastronomic implement of torture.
 
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  • #487
einswine said:
Trust me, "tripe" is a gastronomic implement of torture.
I prefer ribs, no offense.
 
  • #488
Ibix said:
I'd be slightly worried about the delivery options. "You weren't in when we tried to deliver, so we left your package in the crater where your house used to be."
:oldlaugh: That's so like them.
Sophia said:
Psinter, what a beautiful post! There's so much feeling in it. You have such a gift for observation.
You should write a book.
Thanks.
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:biggrin:
 
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  • #489
fresh_42 said:
tribe?
'Tribe' what?
 
  • #490
Psinter said:
:DD To be honest I had to search for the definition of "trite".

Don't worry, as a non-native-English speaker you, Sophia, all others, do better than some 99.99% of native English speakers who can barely make a coherent sentence in other language, and in particular in non-Western languages.
 
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  • #491
zoobyshoe said:
'Tribe' what?
trite tripe tribe - Neapolitans
 
  • #492
fresh_42 said:
trite tripe tribe - Neapolitans

Contrite trite tripe tribe to describe--?
 
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  • #493
nuuskur said:
word play, he mean't venomous :)
I don't know the difference between the two, I will look it up.
 
  • #494
WWGD said:
Contrite trite tripe tribe to describe--?

I can dribe ... fifty-fibe !
 
  • #495
WWGD said:
Contrite trite tripe tribe to describe--?
trite tripe tribe's tidbit
 
  • #496
WWGD said:
I don't know the difference between the two, I will look it up.

You shouldn't bite a poisonous creature and shouldn't get bitten by a venomous one
 
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  • #497
JorisL said:
You shouldn't bite a poisonous creature and shouldn't get bitten by a venomous one

Good, I will stop biting creatures other than dead cows, chicken etc., and will avoid being bitten in general :).
 
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JorisL said:
You shouldn't bite a poisonous creature and shouldn't get bitten by a venomous one
It's not a good idea to be bitten by a poisonous creature, either. The puffer fish, for instance, can and will, take a little chunk of flesh out of a person.
 
  • #499
The raccoon dog is cool.
 
  • #500
Is it group by or having? I know it is not that hard, but for some reason it just does not register in my mind.
 

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