Rare Earth Elements: Extracting from Nuclear Waste?

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The discussion centers on the extraction of rare Earth elements from nuclear waste, exploring the feasibility of addressing perceived shortages in high-tech manufacturing through this method. Participants examine both the technical processes involved and the economic implications of rare Earth element availability.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about the methods for extracting rare Earth elements from nuclear waste, suggesting both chemical and pyrochemical processes.
  • One participant argues that the perceived shortage of rare Earth elements is more of an economic issue than a technical one, highlighting China's operational mining capabilities.
  • Another participant emphasizes the economic and military dimensions of rare Earth element supply, comparing resource management strategies between wealthy and poorer nations.
  • A claim is made that Afghanistan has significant reserves of rare Earth elements, potentially impacting global supply dynamics.
  • One participant questions the practicality of extracting rare Earth elements from nuclear waste, estimating that even if a portion of the waste contained these elements, the yield would be minimal compared to global production needs.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the availability and extraction of rare Earth elements, with no consensus reached on the feasibility or economic viability of extracting these elements from nuclear waste.

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Limitations include assumptions about the percentage of rare Earth elements in nuclear waste and the economic implications of extraction versus current supply chains.

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How are rare Earth elements and minerals extracted from nuclear waste?
And I know that some people are saying that there is a low supply of rare Earth elements needed in high tech manufacturing, could that shortage be solved by extracting these rare elements from nuclear waste?
 
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There's no shortage of the elements themselves, IIRC. We have plenty of them in the US. The trouble is that we stopped mining them and restarting that sort of mining operation on a large scale requires that a great deal of inertia be overcome. The Chinese never stopped mining them, so they have a fully operational system in place that would be hard to catch up with.
 
Biosyn said:
How are rare Earth elements and minerals extracted from nuclear waste?
And I know that some people are saying that there is a low supply of rare Earth elements needed in high tech manufacturing, could that shortage be solved by extracting these rare elements from nuclear waste?
Extraction of rare Earth elements could be done chemically in wet process or pyrochemically (in a nonaqueous system).

http://www.inl.gov/technicalpublications/Documents/3303742.pdf
http://www.oecd-nea.org/science/docs/pubs/nea5427-pyrochemical.pdf

However, one detriment to that plan is that some of the isotopes are still radioactive.

The availability of RE elements is largely an economic issue than a technical issue. China has a huge supply and they can undercut the market.
 
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Its an economic and a military issue. A poor man sells whatever he can part with whenever he can, while the rich man maintains stockpiles for emergencies and sells whenever the price goes up. The US is wealthy so it often only encourages selling specific resources when the price goes up. For example, seafood farming is now a 70 billion dollar industry in the US. The government saw the world supplies diminishing and at the appropriate time encouraged growth in aquaculture. Some rare Earth's are more rare then others and demand for them is projected to increase dramatically in the coming decades.
 
Biosyn said:
How are rare Earth elements and minerals extracted from nuclear waste?
And I know that some people are saying that there is a low supply of rare Earth elements needed in high tech manufacturing, could that shortage be solved by extracting these rare elements from nuclear waste?

Let's put your question in perspective. The world production of rare Earth elements is about 70,000 tons/year. The total world inventory of high-level wast eis about 65,000 tons. So even if 10% of it is rare Earth's (which I doubt) and you reprocessed all of it, you would only generate about one months supply. Does this sound worth it to you?
 

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