Rate of change of area under curve f(x) = f(x)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the relationship between the rate of change of the area under the curve of a function f(x) and the function itself, particularly exploring the equality f'(x) = f(x) in the context of calculus. Participants delve into the historical context of integration and differentiation, as well as the intuitive understanding of this relationship.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether the equality between the rate of change of area under the curve and the function itself arose from a mathematical comparison or from the processes of integration and differentiation.
  • One participant explains that at a specific point x0, the height of the curve f(x0) can be approximated as the area of a rectangle, leading to the conclusion that the rate of change of area is approximately equal to the height of the curve.
  • Another participant notes that while the relationship seems straightforward, formal proof through calculus is necessary, particularly to establish conditions such as the continuity of the function f.
  • Some participants express curiosity about why calculus is required to formalize this relationship, suggesting that it appears easy to understand intuitively.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of intuitive understanding and the necessity of formal calculus to prove the relationship, indicating that while some aspects seem clear, there is no consensus on the ease of understanding or the implications for all continuous functions.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the historical use of integration since ancient times, but there are unresolved questions regarding the implications of the equality for various types of functions, especially those that are continuous but may exhibit complex behavior.

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What lead to the equality of the, rate of change of area under curve f(x) = f(x).

Was it, they were just compared(OR believed to be equal) and mathematically found to be equal. Or when one was integrated or differentiated the other appeared.

Also I knew, integration was being used since Archimeded and Greeks times.

Thanks.
 
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rajeshmarndi said:
What lead to the equality of the, rate of change of area under curve f(x) = f(x).

Was it, they were just compared(OR believed to be equal) and mathematically found to be equal. Or when one was integrated or differentiated the other appeared.

Also I knew, integration was being used since Archimeded and Greeks times.

Thanks.

If you take a function at a point ##f(x_0)##. That's the height of the curve at that point. The area between this and another point a short distance to the right is approximately a rectangle of width ##\Delta x##, hence of area ##\Delta A \approx f(x_0) \Delta x##.

And the rate of change of area is approximately ##\frac{\Delta A}{\Delta x} \approx f(x_0)##

Using calculus makes this exact, but intuitively the rate of change of area under the curve is simply the height of the curve at that point.
 
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It look so easy, how is it that only calculus make it possible later , the relation between integration and differentiation.
 
rajeshmarndi said:
It look so easy, how is it that only calculus make it possible later , the relation between integration and differentiation.

I think it is relatively easy to see. But, calculus is needed to prove it formally and also to put conditions on the function involved - in this case, for example, that the function ##f## is continuous is sufficient. It's not so easy to see intuitively that it works for every continuous function, as some continuous functions are very strange indeed.
 
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