Rate of Change Problem with Clock Hand Position

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The discussion centers on a rate of change problem involving the distance between the tips of a clock's minute and hour hands at 9 AM. The minute hand is 8 cm long and moves at 4pi/15 cm/min, while the hour hand is 6 cm long and should move at pi/120 cm/min. Initially, the user calculated an incorrect rate of change due to a misunderstanding of the hour hand's rotation speed, mistakenly using a 24-hour cycle instead of a 12-hour cycle. After correcting this error, the user confirmed that their alternative method of using limits was valid and aligned with the correct answer. The conversation highlights the importance of accurately determining rotational speeds in related rate problems.
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Homework Statement


"On a certain clock, the minute hand is 8 cm long and the hour hand is 6 cm long.
How fast, in cm/min, is the distance between the tips of the hands changing
at 9 am?"


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The Attempt at a Solution


I should be able to transform this somewhat difficult differentiation problem into a simpler limits problem due to the fact that the hands are perpendicular to each other at 9AM, and the velocity of the tip of a hand is perpendicular to the length of the hand at any time.
So where the speed of the tip of the minute hand is 'm' and that of the hour hand is 'h': (sqrt((8 - ht)^2 + (6 + mt)^2) - sqrt(8^2 + 6^2))/t should be an approximation of the change in distance between the tips over period t while t is non-zero, and the limit as t goes to zero should be exactly the rate of change that's desired.
However with m as 4pi/15 cm/min and h as pi/120 cm/min, I get 23pi/150 where the answers state 22pi/150. I've been over my working for an algebra error enough times to be pretty sure there hasn't been one.

The answers use a completely different method which I do understand (cosine rule and chain rule), I just want to know why this method isn't working.
 
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Oh my god, I can't believe it was that... I accidentally did one rotation of the hour hand per 24 hours instead of per 12. Now I'm getting the right answer and I can know my side-step of a method is valid. Thanks, Voko.
 
Question: A clock's minute hand has length 4 and its hour hand has length 3. What is the distance between the tips at the moment when it is increasing most rapidly?(Putnam Exam Question) Answer: Making assumption that both the hands moves at constant angular velocities, the answer is ## \sqrt{7} .## But don't you think this assumption is somewhat doubtful and wrong?

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