Ratio of atomic masses of two ideal gases

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The discussion revolves around the ratio of atomic masses of two ideal gases, with connections to molar mass and Avogadro's number. Participants are exploring the relationships between these concepts and questioning the wording of the problem.

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  • The original poster attempts to derive the ratio of atomic masses from the internal energy equations of the gases and raises questions about the correctness of the wording in the problem. Other participants seek clarification on the definition of Avogadro's number and its relevance to the discussion.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, questioning definitions, and discussing potential errors in the problem wording. There is a mix of attempts to clarify concepts and explore the implications of the relationships presented.

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There are mentions of potential spelling errors in the problem statement and discussions about the correct interpretation of Avogadro's number in relation to the problem.

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For part(b)
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The solution is, ##1:10##, however, is the wording correct? I don't see how to find the ratio of atomic mass, however, I can solve for the ratio of the molar mass.

##n_A = n_B## from part(a) by setting the internal energy equation for each ideal gas equal
##\frac{M_A}{m_A} = \frac{M_B}{m_B}##
##1000M_A = 10000M_B##
##M_A = 10M_B##

Is the reason they said that is because ##u ∝ M##. Is there a equation that proves that?

Many thanks!
 
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What is the definition of Avagadro's number?
 
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hutchphd said:
What is the definition of Avagadro's number?
Thank you for your reply @hutchphd!

It is the number of molecules per 1 mol. So has units ##\frac{1}{mol}##

Many thanks!
 
I think there is also a spelling error in part(b) it should be ratio not ration
 
hutchphd said:
What is the definition of Avagadro's number?
Do you please know whether my answer was correct @hutchphd ?

Many thanks!
 
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It might be better to write it as ##\frac {number~ of~ molecules}{mole}## in this circumstance
 
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hutchphd said:
It might be better to write it as ##\frac {number~ of~ molecules}{mole}## in this circumstance
Thank you for your reply @hutchphd! I agree that is a much better way to write it. However, is the wording to this problem in post #1 wrong? Or dose Avagadro's number relate to this in some way.

Many thanks!
 
I found from dimensional analysis that the I can get correct units for a mass of one atom (atomic mass):## \frac{M_A}{N_A} = 10\frac{M_B}{N_A} ##
## u_A = 10u_B##
 

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