Ratio of Boys & Girls in Class: 24 Boys & 16 Girls?

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The discussion revolves around determining the ratio of boys to girls in a class based on their average marks. Participants explore the implications of given averages and the total number of students to derive the counts of boys and girls, engaging in mathematical reasoning and problem-solving approaches.

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  • One participant presents the problem stating the mean marks of boys and girls and asks for the ratio and counts, noting a discrepancy with another source.
  • Another participant sets up equations based on the means and total number of students, leading to a solution that identifies 24 boys and 16 girls.
  • A third participant provides an alternative method using weighted averages to arrive at the same conclusion of 24 boys and 16 girls.
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Participants generally agree on the counts of boys and girls being 24 and 16, respectively, based on their calculations. However, the initial question reflects a disagreement with another source, which remains unresolved.

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In a class, the mean of boys' mark is 7.1 while the mean of girls' mark is 8.1. Their overall mean is 7.5. If there are 40 students in the class, determine:
a. The ratio of boys and girls
b. The number of boys and girls

I got this question from someone I tutored. I got the number of boys as 24 and the number of girls as 16. However, his teacher got vice-versa. Which one was right?
 
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Let's let $B$ be the number of boys, and so the number of girls is $G=40-B$. Let $S_i$ be the sum of the respective marks. From what we are given, we know:

$$\frac{S_B}{B}=\frac{71}{10}$$

$$\frac{S_G}{G}=\frac{81}{10}$$

$$\frac{S_B+S_G}{40}=\frac{15}{2}$$

Thus, we have the system:

$$B+G=40$$

$$71B=10S_B$$

$$81G=10S_G$$

$$S_B+S_G=300$$

Now, the 2nd and 3rd equations, when added and simplified, give us

$$S_B+S_G=\frac{71B+81G}{10}$$

And so this implies, when considering the 4th equation:

$$71B+81G=3000$$

Then using the 1st equation, and substitution, we obtain:

$$71B+81(40-B)=3000$$

$$71B+3240-81B=3000$$

$$B=24\implies G=16$$

I agree with you. :D
 
Equivalently, let a be the number of boys and b the number of girls. Then the weighted average of grades is \frac{7.1a+ 8.1b}{a+ b}= 7.5. Of course, a+ b= 40 so that is \frac{7.1a+ 8.1b}{40}= 7.5 or 7.1a+ 8.1b= 7.5(40)= 300. We need to solve the simultaneous equations 7.1a+ 8.1b= 300 and a+ b= 40. Multiplying the second equation by 7.1, 7.1a+ 7.1b= 7.1(40)= 284. Subtracting that from the first equation eliminates a leaving b= 16. Then a= 40- 16= 24.

Yet another way: from 7.1 to 8.1 is a difference of 1.0. From 7.1 to 7.5 is a difference of 0.4. 1.0- 0.4= 0.6. The 40 students must be divided into boys and girls the same way 1.0 is divided into 0.6 and 0.4. 0.6(40)= 24, 0.4(40)= 16.
 
Thank you guys.:D
 

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