RC circuit with AC - finding current

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around an RC circuit with alternating current, specifically focusing on deriving a differential equation for current in terms of voltage and analyzing the current for a given voltage function.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the application of Kirchhoff's Current Law (KCL) to derive a differential equation, with some questioning the need for a differential approach versus using impedance.
  • There are discussions about the relationship between current and voltage across the capacitor and resistor, and the implications of factoring voltage out of derivatives.
  • Participants raise questions about the distinction between instantaneous and average current in the context of AC circuits.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, providing insights and clarifications regarding the mathematical relationships involved. There is a recognition of the need to substitute the given voltage function into the derived expressions, and some guidance has been offered on how to proceed with the integration and simplification.

Contextual Notes

There is an ongoing discussion about the implications of using AC in the circuit, particularly regarding the average current being zero and the presence of complex numbers in the voltage function.

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Homework Statement



I am given an RC circuit with an alternating current. The circuit contains a capacitor and a resistor in parallel. Part (a) says "Use KCL to find a differential equation for I in terms of V." Part (b) says "For an applied voltage V = Voexp(iwt), find the current I."

Homework Equations



ITotal = I1 + I2
Z = impedance
ZR = R
ZC = (1/wiC)
V = IZ

The Attempt at a Solution



I understand how KCL works, but I'm not sure how to get it in a differential equation. Ignoring this and using KCL anyway, I get:

V - I1ZR = V - I1R = 0
V - I2ZC = V - I2(1/iwC) = 0
I1 = ViwC
I2 = (V/R)
ITotal = ViwC + (V/R)

Am I on the right track, or does the fact that I need a differential equation mean I need to do something completely different?
 
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Looks like you are supposed to use the differential equation method (which is more general than the impedance method you started).
The current through a capacitor is related to the voltage across it by i=C*dV/dt. Apply KCL to the node where the current splits, part through R and part through C. You should have only the combined i, the common V and of course R and C in your equation. And a derivative.
 
I've gotten as far as:

i = C*dV/dt + V/R

Is it mathematically correct to say that V is common to both terms on the right, and therefore:

i = V(C*d/dt + 1/R) ?

If so, I would plug in the V value given in step (b):

i = Voeiwt(C*d/dt + 1/R)

How would I go about integrating this (or should I have integrated before plugging in V)?
 
The first formula looks great, but you can't factor the V out of the derivative. For the (b) part you'll have to find the derivative of the V function. After that, likely you'll be able to take out a common factor because the derivative of an exponential function is the same function multiplied by some constants.
 
Is the i in the voltage function V = Voeiwt the current I want? If so, I've been spending MUCH longer on this than I needed to... haha

In that case, it'd just be:

V = Voeiwt

dV/di = Vo(iwt)eiwt
 
dV/dt = iwVo*e^(iwt)
 
RIGHT that's what I meant.

Is that my answer (solving for i) or do I set that equal to I/C and solve for I?

I guess I'm getting hung up on the fact that there's an instantaneous current (i) and an average/overall current (I), and I don't know which to solve for.
 
You can't solve it for i.
The answer is your i = C*dV/dt + V/R with that expression for dV/dt subbed in. Oh, and replace V with its given value. Maybe you can simplify it. Factoring out the exponential would be nice.

The average current will always be zero with AC.
 
Ah, that makes sense! Thank you!

Just to double check, I got for an answer:

i = Voeiwt (iwC + 1/R)

Does it matter that there's also an i in the exponent?
 
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Looks good!
 
  • #11
Excellent! Thanks for your help.
 

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