Re: location of maximum stresses

  • Thread starter Thread starter paddles069
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Maximum
Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the understanding of moments acting on a beam, particularly in the context of stress distribution in a T-beam as illustrated in provided diagrams. Participants explore the mechanics of moments, their effects on beam behavior, and the reasoning behind identifying maximum tensile and compressive stresses at specific points.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about how moments affect the beam, questioning the representation of moments as straight lines in the diagram.
  • Another participant clarifies that the moment is resolved into components acting on the beam, indicating simultaneous bending about multiple axes.
  • A third participant explains that moments can be viewed as forces applied at a distance and do not necessarily cause rotation, suggesting that understanding beam cross-sections is crucial for interpreting stress distributions.
  • There is a suggestion that the notation for moments could be improved for clarity, proposing the use of a double-headed arrow to indicate the moment's axis in a 3D sketch.
  • A participant emphasizes the importance of free body diagrams (FBDs) in analyzing the problem and understanding stress distributions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit a mix of understanding and confusion regarding the concepts of moments and stress distributions. There is no consensus on the best way to represent moments or the reasoning behind the stress conclusions, indicating ongoing debate and exploration of the topic.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about familiarity with beam cross-sections and the interpretation of diagrams may not be universally shared among participants. The discussion reflects varying levels of experience with solid mechanics concepts.

Who May Find This Useful

Readers interested in solid mechanics, structural engineering, or those studying beam behavior and stress analysis may find this discussion relevant.

paddles069
Messages
4
Reaction score
0
With respect to upper figure in the attached diagram, I don't really understand how the moment acts on the beam. I've always understood moments as forces that cause rotation and so when it is drawn as a straight line in the upper figure I'm not sure how that is affecting the beam.

With regards to the lower figure, the solutions state that 'by inspection', the maximum tensile stress is located at point B and the maximum compressive stress is located at point C. Why is this? How do they arrive at this conclusion?
 

Attachments

  • moments.png
    moments.png
    18.3 KB · Views: 520
Physics news on Phys.org
The moment in the upper figure is shown resolved into its two components in the lower figure (notice the moments shown on the y and z axes). In effect, the beam is being bent about the y and z axes at the same time.
 
It's an understandable question. Treat it as any other beam cross-section, except it's being twisted to the right and twisted upwards, as opposed to a straight on load.

To answer your questions:
Moments are a force applied at a distance from some center. They don't have to cause a rotation and if this is the case, they can be resolved into forces applied, at a certain distance.

I too was thrown off by a lot of these things in sophomore solid mechanics because they were never related to the real world.

Their "by inspection" statement assumes you are familiar with beam cross sections. In cases of T-beams, I think you should treat them as I-beams when "inspecting".

First and foremost, always draw your freebody diagrams or break the problem down into FBD's. Always!
 
I think the M should have had a double headed arrow, indicating a moment about the axis with the arrow head at its end. In a 3-dimensional sketch, can you sketch the stress distributions separately from the two components? This is how you can see by inspection the quality of the stresses at B and at C.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 15 ·
Replies
15
Views
7K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
5K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 36 ·
2
Replies
36
Views
6K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
4K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
94K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
3K