Reaction Rate experiment: Potassium Permanganate and Hydrogen Peroxide

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around an experiment involving the reaction between potassium permanganate and hydrogen peroxide, focusing on the determination of reaction rates and the implications of varying concentrations of reactants. Participants explore the relationship between concentration and reaction rate, as well as the graphical representation of their findings.

Discussion Character

  • Experimental/applied
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes an experiment where potassium permanganate solution is reacted with hydrogen peroxide and vinegar, noting that the reaction results in a color change from purple to colorless.
  • The reaction rate is calculated as the concentration of KMnO4 divided by time, and the participant questions the validity of plotting x/t against x, which yielded an exponential fit in their data.
  • Another participant suggests that the shape of the curve observed in the experiment is influenced by the concentration of the limiting reactant, indicating that a different relationship would emerge if the limiting reactant were changed.
  • There is a proposal that if the concentration of peroxide and acetic acid is kept constant, the reaction rate should be proportional to the square of the concentration of KMnO4, implying a second-order reaction.
  • One participant mentions the possibility of plotting 1/t against [KMnO4] or 1/[KMnO4] against time as alternative approaches to analyze the data.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various hypotheses regarding the relationship between reactant concentrations and reaction rates, but no consensus is reached on the exact nature of the relationships or the validity of the proposed plots.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of the limiting reactant in determining the reaction rate and the potential impact of varying concentrations on the observed results. There are unresolved questions regarding the appropriateness of different graphical representations of the data.

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Relationship between reaction rate and concentration when Potassium Permanganate reacts with excess Hydrogen Peroxide in acidic medium.
I am picking up on an old thread having revisited the associated experiment.

https://www.physicsforums.com/threa...ganate-and-hydrogen-peroxide-solution.992713/

10ml of Permanganate solution (0.0135 mol/liter) were reacted with 10ml of Peroxide and 10ml of vinegar. The peroxide was in excess so all the permanganate reacted changing from purple to colourless. This colour change was timed for various dilutions of the permanganate. For example, one run would consist of 8ml stock permanganate and 2ml distilled water reacted with the 10ml peroxide and 10ml vinegar. Constant volume of 30ml was thus maintained.

Reaction rate was determined as [KMnO4] / t . and plotted against [K Mn O4]. I'm not sure how valid it is to plot x/t vs x but that's what we did yielding following data and graph. Well it seems to show a pretty good exponential fit and my question is where does that come from? Have trawled the internet but can't find anything similar except maybe the well know sodium thiosulphate reaction rate experiment.

https://www.desmos.com/calculator/fdkytmcxgy

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I'm assuming that your question is 'big-picture.'
The curve shape is the result of the fact that the instantaneous rate of reaction is controlled by how much of the limiting reactant remains - and that you are monitoring that specific reactant. If you did the same experiment (monitoring permanganate) with a much-reduced peroxide concentration (making it the limiter), you'd see a different relationship.
 
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Dullard said:
I'm assuming that your question is 'big-picture.'
The curve shape is the result of the fact that the instantaneous rate of reaction is controlled by how much of the limiting reactant remains - and that you are monitoring that specific reactant. If you did the same experiment (monitoring permanganate) with a much-reduced peroxide concentration (making it the limiter), you'd see a different relationship.
I think the aim was to have the peroxide well in excess so that you would definitely see the purple colour disappear and could time how long that took. If the concentration of peroxide and of acetic acid (from vinegar) is kept constant , then rate should be proportional to [KMnO4].^2 - second order ? Did get something suggesting a straight line graph plotting 1/t vs [KMnO4] or 1/[KMnO4] vs t.
 

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