Real Analysis after Multivariable Calculus a bad idea?

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The discussion revolves around the value of studying real analysis after completing a course in multivariable calculus, particularly from the perspective of a physics student. Participants explore whether real analysis is necessary or beneficial for further mathematical understanding and its relevance to physics applications.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that real analysis serves as a gateway to more advanced analysis courses that are beneficial for physics and promotes mathematical maturity.
  • Another participant argues that the specific problem mentioned can be approached using combinatorial arguments, implying that real analysis may not be necessary for understanding such concepts.
  • Some participants express confusion regarding the thread title, questioning the premise of whether studying real analysis after multivariable calculus is a bad idea.
  • One participant notes that in many educational institutions, multivariable calculus is a prerequisite for real analysis, suggesting a logical progression in mathematical education.
  • A participant reflects on their experience with real analysis and considers whether their time might be better spent on linear algebra or differential equations, indicating a personal evaluation of study priorities.
  • Another participant emphasizes that the decision to study analysis depends on individual goals and that analysis provides deeper rigor behind calculus, which is important for advanced mathematics and physics.
  • There is a suggestion that brushing up on other subjects like linear algebra can provide additional tools and confidence before tackling analysis.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions on the necessity and timing of studying real analysis after multivariable calculus. There is no consensus on whether it is a bad idea, as some see value in it while others question its relevance based on personal goals and educational paths.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention varying educational backgrounds and experiences, which may influence their perspectives on the necessity of real analysis. The discussion reflects differing priorities in mathematical study and the perceived relationship between analysis and other mathematical disciplines.

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I studied from Multivariable Calculus by James Stewart this past year and thought that it would be worth reading another calculus text to fill in the gaps and to keep my skills sharp. While reading Advanced Calculus by David Widder, I came across this problem:

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Suppose a homogeneous polynomial of the nth order and of m variables. Show that the number of terms in the homogeneous polynomial can be described by [itex]\stackrel{m + n - 1}{n}[/itex]

This seems like a question that would require some knowledge of mathematical analysis, a course I have not taken. As a physics student, would I gain anything by studying real analysis? If not, what would you suggest?
 
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In my experience, real analysis is useful as a gateway course to more advanced analysis courses that are directly useful for physics. It was also indirectly useful by forcing a higher level of mathematical maturity.

Whether or not you should take analysis depends, what course would you have to give up to take it? If none, then it's absolutely worth it.

Also, that question does not need analysis, it can be treated with combinatoric arguments.
 
I do not think this requires mathematical analysis at all. Consider a couple of test cases. Example suppose we have 2 variables and second order. Sucha polynomial looks like:

[itex]ax^2 + bxy +cy^2[/itex].
 
Why would that be a bad idea? In many schools, multivariable calculus is actually a prereq for real analysis.
 
Real Analysis after Multivariable Calculus a bad idea?

I am also confused by the thread title. It seems like asking whether it is a good idea to open the door before getting into a car.
 
Sankaku said:
I am also confused by the thread title. It seems like asking whether it is a good idea to open the door before getting into a car.

The title is bad, I know. To make it clearer: I've made it through the first 2 chapters of Real Mathematical Analysis by Pugh and I'm thinking that my time would be better spent with a book on Linear Algebra or Differential Equations. That being said, I'll be taking courses on those two topics next semester so maybe I should study something I won't see in school.
 
PeteyCoco said:
The title is bad, I know. To make it clearer: I've made it through the first 2 chapters of Real Mathematical Analysis by Pugh and I'm thinking that my time would be better spent with a book on Linear Algebra or Differential Equations. That being said, I'll be taking courses on those two topics next semester so maybe I should study something I won't see in school.

Well, it really depends on what you are wanting to do with it. Analysis will take you further into the rigor behind calculus. As others have said, it is a pre-requisite for going deeper into mathematics, particularly anything in the mathematical side of physics.

However, one can never have too much Linear Algebra. Sometimes it just takes a little time before you want to attack a subject like Analysis, and brushing up on other subjects can give you more tools (and confidence). I don't think there is one right answer.
 

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