Real Numbers and Equality: Can x+y=4 Be Proven from x2-4x=y2-4y?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves proving a relationship between two real numbers, x and y, under the condition that x² - 4x = y² - 4y and x is not equal to y. The original poster seeks to establish whether x + y can be shown to equal 4 based on these conditions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempted various cases, including positive and negative values for x and y, and also considered completing the square, which led to the conclusion that x = y. Other participants suggested factoring the difference of squares and moving terms to one side of the equation.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing different approaches and clarifications. There is no explicit consensus on the next steps, but some guidance has been offered regarding manipulating the equation.

Contextual Notes

The original poster's attempts indicate a struggle with the implications of the given conditions, particularly the assumption that x is not equal to y. The nature of the problem suggests that there may be constraints or specific interpretations of the equality that need to be explored further.

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Homework Statement



x and y are real numbers. prove that if x2-4x=y2-4y and x not equal to y, then x+y=4.

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The Attempt at a Solution



I tried using cases and making x and y positive and negative or even and odd, and that didnt work. then i tried completing the square on both sides and I got x=y.
please help~
 
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Move all the terms to one side. x^2-y^2=(x+y)(x-y). Factor out an (x-y).
 
Dick said:
Move all the terms to one side. x^2-y^2=(x+y)(x-y). Factor out an (x-y).
Dick, I think you mean "move all the squared terms to one side."
 
Mark44 said:
Dick, I think you mean "move all the squared terms to one side."

I meant what I said. I was counting on the OP finish it from there.
 

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