Realizing you're gay: What is meant by that?

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Can you tell me one thing, it seems to me that the proportion of exceptional people throughout history (eg some of my favourites, Leonardo, Michealangello, Caravaggio...) and today who prefer their own sex far outweighs the given distribution of gay/straights, am I stereotyping or do you think this is right, and if so why?
 

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fi said:
Can you tell me one thing, it seems to me that the proportion of exceptional people throughout history (eg some of my favourites, Leonardo, Michealangello, Caravaggio...) and today who prefer their own sex far outweighs the given distribution of gay/straights, am I stereotyping or do you think this is right, and if so why?
I think that gay men in particular have to a larger extent than the rest of the population cultivated their ability to take a delight in simple, sensory perceptions.
With that, I mean that you will more often find that gays are likely to take a (ultra-)short break from what they do, and savour say, a fresh scent in the air, humming a long a bit on a caught strain from a melody coming up from downstairs, and that they get invigorated by these short breaks before delving back in what they are doing.

This ability to let yourself be invigorated by whatever small break of monotony you experience can be regarded as the "constructive" side of the often levelled charge against gays that they are "flighty, scatter-brained".
It doesn't at all have to mean an inability to do solid work, but it might certainly mean, on occasion, that doing solid work becomes less of an onerous "duty".


In so far as this is true, I think it might have something to do with that a "healed" gay man (i.e, who has realized and accepted he's gay after an harrowing youth) is perhaps more likely to cherish those moments of happiness he senses present themselves to him.

Furthermore, I think this enhanced receptivity to sensory beauty might well be regarded as a sort of "aestheticism".
I think, however, it is more true to say that gays are more naturally inclined to appreciate art, rather than to say that they are better at making art.
 

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I was thinking of exceptional in other ways besides art, just that art naturally springs to my mind. I should have listed non-artists too.
I do take your point regarding gay aestheticism. Prior to reading your thread I had idly put this down to diverted creativity- creating masterpieces or creatively enjoying them, rather than creating kids!
 

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fi said:
. Prior to reading your thread I had idly put this down to diverted creativity- creating masterpieces or creatively enjoying them, rather than creating kids!
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You know, I hadn't thought of that angle!
It might well be something in it..
 
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OF course, theres going to be certain gestures said.

Everyone is entitled to there own opinion man, you can only hope that people mature and realize, if there sexuality is gay and it makes them happy then so be it. Instead of saying ''oh he's gay.. hence he's going to try and be gay around me and hit on me.. i better stay away from him.'' Appreciate what the gay man's got to offer lol.
Hell, i know this one guy who happened to be gay, in some short shorts beating everyone one on one in a game of basketball. Being gay has nothing to do with personality i think, it's only made to seem that way. Not every gay man has to be into the arts, but alot of them are.
 

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I almost don't disagree with you.

However, since our personalities aren't wholly static from our birth (various traits becoming stronger or weaker as a result of individual life experiences and life-choices), consider the following scenario:

Take two guys who start out with basically the SAME personality, one gay, the other straight.
What I suggest, is that since their EXPERIENCES through adolescence will typically be quite strongly different from each other (due to discovery of different sexual orientations), then that difference might cause their adult personalities to diverge even though they started out equal.

I have tried, possibly unsuccessfully, to indicate somewhat more concretely what that might mean. Of course, if, for example "artistic leanings" is totally foreign to the personality profile they had in common originally, then neither the gay or straight guy will develop in that particular direction.

That other major different experiences (like the death of a parent, or a really lucky break with your first job) might have at least as much to say than their realization of different sexualities, is of course not denied either; I've tried to identify what diverging trends we might get, given "all other factors being equal".
 
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