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The discussion revolves around calculating the minimum energy required to raise a vehicle from the surface of the moon to a specified height, utilizing gravitational potential energy concepts.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the use of gravitational potential energy equations, with attempts to calculate initial and final energy states. There is a focus on ensuring the correct application of signs in calculations and the subtraction of energy values to find the required energy.

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Some participants are actively engaging with the calculations, questioning the accuracy of their results, and reflecting on potential errors in their reasoning. There is an acknowledgment of the challenges faced during prolonged study sessions, but no consensus on the final answer has been reached.

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Participants mention the complexity of the problem and the potential for confusion due to fatigue from extended homework sessions.

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Homework Statement



What minimum energy is required to raise a 1.7e3 kg vehicle from the surface of the moon to a height of 5.22e6 m?

Homework Equations



Ep= -G(m1m2)/r

The Attempt at a Solution



Ep(initial)= -6.67e^-11(1.7e^3 x 7.35e^22)/1.74e^6 = -4789750000

Ep(final)= -6.67^-11(1.7e3 x 7.35e^22)/6.96e^6= -1197437500

I have tried subtracting the final by the initial, but I am not getting the correct answer of 3.6e^9 J.
 
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Hi grantP,

grantP said:

Homework Statement



What minimum energy is required to raise a 1.7e3 kg vehicle from the surface of the moon to a height of 5.22e6 m?

Homework Equations



Ep= -G(m1m2)/r

The Attempt at a Solution



Ep(initial)= -6.67e^-11(1.7e^3 x 7.35e^22)/1.74e^6 = -4789750000

Ep(final)= -6.67^-11(1.7e3 x 7.35e^22)/6.96e^6= -1197437500

I have tried subtracting the final by the initial, but I am not getting the correct answer of 3.6e^9 J.

What are you getting? It looks to me like if you do Ep(final) - Ep(initial) you do get 3.6 x 109J.
 
oh...hmmmm i must have mixed up my signs...and doing 4 straight hours of physics homework probably didnt help...looking back at it 4 hours later I was probabaly so delerious haha.

Well anyways thanks for the help on my threads.
 
Right, I understand completely about how too much work can make you start seeing things. Glad to help!
 

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