Reappearing Waves: Hi! Uncover the Mystery

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The discussion centers around the phenomenon of destructive interference in waves, specifically addressing the question of why waves seem to "reappear" after momentarily canceling each other out. Participants explore the nature of wave interactions, energy flow, and the behavior of particles during interference.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that waves "reappear" after destructive interference, questioning the mechanism behind this phenomenon.
  • Another participant argues that waves do not actually disappear but rather have a momentary interaction that results in zero amplitude.
  • A request for examples is made to clarify the concept of waves not spontaneously "reappearing" after interference.
  • Visual aids are proposed to explain the behavior of particles during wave interference, highlighting that particles do not move during the interference moment.
  • A participant explains that the motion of particles returns because the destructively interfering waves have moved past each other, allowing for the reestablishment of motion.
  • Energy flow in mechanical waves is discussed, noting that even when displacement is zero, kinetic energy can be at a maximum, indicating that energy is still present in the system.

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Participants express differing views on whether waves "reappear" or simply continue to exist without disappearing. The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple competing interpretations of the phenomenon presented.

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Some participants reference the behavior of particles and energy flow in mechanical waves, but there are limitations in the explanations provided, particularly regarding the assumptions about wave behavior and the definitions of terms used.

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When two equal waves meet in a destructive interference a short while the resultant wave is flat. What makes the waves reappear?
 
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I see what you mean, but they don't "REappear" because they have never disappeared they have just had a momentary interaction that results in zero amplitude.
 
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What makes the waves reappear?

Do you have an example of this. As far as I am aware if two wave of equal magnitude and opposite phase destructively interfere with each other the waves do not spontaneously "reappear".
 
As phinds pointed out - the motion of the particles returns because the destructively interfering waves have moved past each other.

Consider - a ball, bouncing, is stationary in the instant that it strikes the surface - then, in the next instant, the motion reappears (in the opposite direction). How did this happen?

Simplistically: In the pulse on a string - what happens is that there are two forces displacing the particles. They are equal and opposite but they act in different places so you see different pulses. They move towards each other - when they act in the same place, the forces oppose each other directly for no net result, but the thing providing the two forces has not gone away - they are both still pulling on the particles. When the forces move past each other they are no longer acting on the same particle, so the displacement returns.
 
Thanks!
 
In mechanical waves of any sort, there is a constant flow of energy because any mechanism that's supporting a mechanical wave can be looked upon as a series of masses, joined by springs (or the equivalent) and there is a combination of Potential and Kinetic energies. When the displacement happens to be zero (zero PE), the velocity (KE) is at a maximum. So there is still energy flow even though the displacements in the two interfering waves appears to be zero. The energy hasn't 'disappeared' anywhere - you just don't recognise it's there in the nodes, where the two potential energies add together.
 

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