Rearranging an equation using log functions

  • Thread starter Thread starter Rosstickle
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Functions Log
Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion focuses on rearranging the equation H = ((2^(X-1))-1)/(K*(X-1)*C^(X-1)) using natural logarithms to achieve the form y = a0 + a1*C. The user initially attempted to apply logarithmic laws incorrectly, leading to confusion about the legality of their manipulations. Ultimately, they clarified that logarithmic operations can only be applied once to each side of the equation. The user successfully resolved their issue and expressed gratitude for the assistance received.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of natural logarithms and their properties
  • Familiarity with algebraic manipulation of equations
  • Knowledge of the equation form y = a0 + a1*C
  • Experience with the Polymath software for data analysis
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the properties of logarithmic functions in detail
  • Learn about algebraic rearrangement techniques for complex equations
  • Explore the use of Polymath for parameter estimation in experimental data
  • Investigate advanced applications of logarithmic transformations in data modeling
USEFUL FOR

Students, mathematicians, and data analysts who are working on equation manipulation and parameter estimation using software tools like Polymath.

Rosstickle
Messages
2
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement



Hi guys. I'm trying to rearrage an equation using the natural log and I thought I had it correct but am now struggling. I need to rearange it into the form: y=a0 + a1*C. Where a0 and a1 are some combination of the other variables and numbers below

Homework Equations



H = ((2^(X-1))-1)/(K*(X-1)*C^(X-1))

H,X,K and C are all variables

The Attempt at a Solution



I've tried rearanging using log laws but I now think it might be wrong.


ln(H) = ln(2^(X-1)-1) - ln(K*(X-1)) - (X-1)*ln(C)

But I'm not sure if this is legal considering the equation could be rearranged to:

H = (2^(X-1))/(K*(X-1)*C^(X-1)) - 1/(K*(X-1)*C^(X-1))

Can I then apply log as follows:

ln(H) = ln(2^(X-1))/(K*(X-1)*C^(X-1)) - ln(1/(K*(X-1)*C^(X-1)))

or can I only apply log once to each side, eg:

ln(H) = ln((2^(X-1))/(K*(X-1)*C^(X-1))- 1/(K*(X-1)*C^(X-1)))
 
Physics news on Phys.org
ln(H) = ln(2^(X-1)-1) - ln(K*(X-1)) - (X-1)*ln(C)
H = (2^(X-1))/(K*(X-1)*C^(X-1)) - 1/(K*(X-1)*C^(X-1))
These two are fine. But
ln(H) = ln(2^(X-1))/(K*(X-1)*C^(X-1)) - ln(1/(K*(X-1)*C^(X-1)))
Is not right. You can only apply log once to each side (as you said), it would be:
ln(H) = ln((2^(X-1))/(K*(X-1)*C^(X-1))- 1/(K*(X-1)*C^(X-1)))

But What is it you are trying to do? Get C to be the subject of the equation?
 
I was trying to rearrange it to the form:

y= a0 +a1*C

or

ln(y) = a0 + a1*ln(C)

I was trying to do this so a program called polymath could determine the a0 and a1 (using experimental date), so that I could find the parameters X and K for the given set of data.

I have since worked it out though. Thank you for your help anyway though.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 21 ·
Replies
21
Views
2K
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 39 ·
2
Replies
39
Views
4K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
3K
Replies
8
Views
4K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K