Rearranging Equations: Understanding C(z) and Proportionality

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The discussion revolves around rearranging equations related to proportional controllers, specifically focusing on the variable C(z) and its relationship to other terms in the context of Z-transforms. Participants are examining the correctness of an equation derived by the original poster and its implications for graphing a proportional controller.

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  • The original poster attempts to verify their rearrangement of an equation for C(z) and its application in graphing. Some participants question the clarity of the transition from C(z) to c(k) and the relationship between these variables. Others express uncertainty regarding the use of complex numbers in the equations presented.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on the clarity of the original poster's work. Some guidance has been offered regarding the Z-transform, although there is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the rearrangement or the relationships involved.

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Participants note that the original poster's attachments were initially unclear, which may have hindered responses. There is also mention of a tutorial being followed, which may impose certain constraints or assumptions on the problem being discussed.

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Hi there,

In the attachment I have an equation, I have worked though to solve for C(z) which is is highlighted in green. The highlighted yellow equation is what is supposed to look like but I am unsure if I am correct or not. I have tried to used my answer to make a graph for a Proportional controller but it doesn't work out, which makes me believe i have rearranged it wrong

If someone can tell me if the answer i have found is correct or not that would be great.

Thanks for your time
 

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Your attached image is too small for me to read, which might be why no one has responded.
 
Thanks Mark44 for let me know, it seemed to work on my computer but I have now changed it to a work document so you should be able to see it and the answer I have come up with.
 

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Everything looks fine down to your last unshaded equation for C(z). After that, the transition to c(k) is so abrupt, that I'm not able to decipher what's going on. I have no idea what the relationship is between c(k) and C(z).

In the last (shaded yellow) equation for C(z) it appears that you are replacing the terms involving R(z) with a finite power series in z-1, z-2, ..., z-m, and something similar with the terms involving C(z).

The complex analysis class I had was so long ago that I'm not able to follow what you're doing in the last two lines.

One thing that bothers me is the e-5x terms mixed in with powers of z, which I assume are complex numbers.
 
Hi Mark44,

This attachment is the question, it has to do with porportional controllers. In this attachment I have put in the tutorial that I have been following. maybe this will help with the changing from C(z) to C(k)
 

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It took me awhile, but it looks like you're working with the Z-transform. I don't have any experience with that transform, so I don't think I can be much help.

Here's a link to the Wikipedia article - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z_transform.

Here's another link to an introductory tutorial than might be more helpful - http://math.fullerton.edu/mathews/c2003/ZTransformIntroMod.html
 
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Hi Mark44,

Thanks for the information it was a little better to understand than what i had in the textbooks. I was able to transform it into the z domain

thank
 

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