Recognizing Standing Waves: Simple Equation Analysis

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The discussion revolves around recognizing standing waves through the analysis of wave equations. The original poster presents a specific equation for standing waves and queries how to determine if two waves with different amplitudes traveling in opposite directions form a standing wave.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the definition of standing waves and the conditions under which they form. There is a discussion about the form of wave equations and the implications of amplitude differences on wave behavior.

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Participants are examining the relationship between traveling and standing waves, with some suggesting that the original poster's equation may not represent a true standing wave pattern. There is an ongoing exploration of definitions and interpretations of wave behavior, particularly regarding energy transport.

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Homework Statement


Hello everyone,
I am stuck with a basic concept.How do we can recognize if a given equation is wave or not?For example we know that the standing waves equation is y=2Acos(kx)sin(ωt). In my textbook there is a problem which says that two waves having only different amplitudes are traveling on opposite directions on x-axis. They have asked if the waves form standing waves.

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First of all i wrote the following equations.
y1=A1sin(kx-ωt) ; y1=A2sin(kx+ωt)
i added them and got
y1+y2= (A2+A1)sin(kx)cos(ωt)+(A2-A1)coskxsinωt

how do i recognize if this equation represents a standing wave or not??
 
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The standing waves have pretty neat definition.

Standing wave is formed when two waves of the same amplitude and frequency, traveling with the same speed in opposite directions interfere (add up).

I guess, this gives you the answer!

For a given function ##h## to be a traveling wave, it must be of the form ##h(x-vt)##, where v is velocity of wave.
 
NihalSh said:
The standing waves have pretty neat definition.



I guess, this gives you the answer!

For a given function ##h## to be a traveling wave, it must be of the form ##h(x-vt)##, where v is velocity of wave.

i was thinking the same but my book says that it forms standing waves and also transports energy
 
nil1996 said:
i was thinking the same but my book says that it forms standing waves and also transports energy

standing waves in general form pattern in which point of minimum and maximum displacement don't change with time, moreover in general there is no transport of energy over large distance.

Maybe author of your book wants to make a point!

You can check this out at: http://www.physics.buffalo.edu/claw/Page15/ProjectCLAW-P15.html

Edit: The equation you found can be considered to be superposition of two standing waves. But it won't reproduce pattern characteristic of standing waves!
 
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NihalSh said:
a wave cannot be both traveling as well as standing because both are complementary to each other!

I meant to say partially traveling.
thanks for guidance:smile:
 
nil1996 said:
I meant to say partially traveling.
thanks for guidance:smile:

no problem!:wink:
 

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