Recommend books about classical mechanics please

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The discussion revolves around recommendations for textbooks on classical mechanics suitable for undergraduate self-study. Participants share their experiences and preferences regarding various texts, considering the mathematical background required and the difficulty level of the books.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests Resnick and Halliday as a good introductory text, noting its gentle calculus requirement and familiarity from teaching experience.
  • Another participant lists textbooks in order of difficulty, starting with Halliday-Resnick and progressing to Kleppner-Kolenkow.
  • Some participants recommend John Taylor's book for more advanced material, arguing it is accessible even for those with basic math knowledge.
  • A participant mentions Schaum's Outline in Lagrangian Dynamics as a useful supplement.
  • Landau & Lifshitz is noted for its advanced content, with participants expressing mixed views on its accessibility for beginners.
  • Feynman Lectures are suggested as a supplementary resource, though their elementary nature may be challenging for those without prior mechanics knowledge.
  • Alonso and Finn's Fundamental University Physics is recommended for its balance of difficulty and comprehensiveness, although concerns about its availability are raised.

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Participants express a range of opinions on the difficulty and appropriateness of various textbooks, indicating no consensus on a single best choice. Some agree on the value of certain texts while others emphasize the need for caution regarding their complexity.

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Participants highlight the varying levels of mathematical prerequisites and the potential challenges posed by advanced texts like Landau & Lifshitz. There is also mention of the availability of certain books, particularly in different languages.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for undergraduate students seeking self-study resources in classical mechanics, educators looking for textbook recommendations, and individuals interested in the varying levels of complexity in physics literature.

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Hi! i need some textbooks recommendations to learn by my self about classical mechanics in a undegraduate level. I don´¨¨t know what kind of math is required, i have knowledge about calculus by my high school classes and i learned more with the book "Calculus" by Gilbert Strang. I wait for your recommendations. :)
 
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The first volume of Resnick and Halliday are good, and the one I am most familiar with. I have taught recitation sections that used Resnick in Halliday throughout the early 80's. I thumbed through Knight, and also Giancoli's physics books and find them good also.
Resnick and Halliday and the other textbooks of that type are gentle in their calculus requirement, in that they assume a concurrent course in calculus.

If you are confident in your math, and are looking for a intermediate (i.e. junior-senior) year university textbook which is more advanced, and dedicated to the study of mechanics alone, then I like Symon, Mechanics, or Marion/Thornton Mechanics of (something like particles and systems). These books are more demanding in the mathematics they assume.

Personally, I feel why rush things. Reading Resnick /Halliday or Knight for mechanics is a good introduction that will motivate you to study further if needed.
 
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In order of least to higher difficulty

Old editions of Halliday-Resnick.
Alonso & Finn
Kleppner - Kolenkow

Special mention to Newtonian mechanics by French.
 
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Yeah, I agree Kleppner-Kolenkow is good. But if you want something more advanced there is also John Taylor's book. It definitely covers a lot more advanced stuff than the other books but I feel like it is clear enough that even if you have the basic math background but haven't been exposed to anything beyond Newton's laws, you'll get something out of it. When I started reading it I didn't even really understand calculus which was silly in hindsight but I actually did learn some things that stayed with me.
 
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Landau&Lifshitz vol. 1. Without much ado Hamilton's principle from the beginning ;-)).
 
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vanhees71 said:
Landau&Lifshitz vol. 1. Without much ado Hamilton's principle from the beginning ;-)).
LOL well it's a great book but if you know the subject already. Otherwise it's pretty difficult, like all LL books.
 
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AndreasC said:
LOL well it's a great book but if you know the subject already. Otherwise it's pretty difficult, like all LL books.
Thanks, in that case i´ m going to check it after read the others books.
 
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As a supplement to say Halliday-Resnick or Kleppner-Kolenkow, you can browse through the first part of the Feynman lectures (they are elementary and full of insight, but hard to understand if you haven't had mechanics before)
https://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/
 
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Santiago Perini said:
Thanks, in that case i´ m going to check it after read the others books.
Bear in mind that LL is written at a graduate level. It's not really an undergrad book. If you are advanced you can read it but many people would argue that John R Taylor which I suggested is too advanced for someone who hasn't been exposed to university mechanics before (I disagree but I see their point), but LL is, like, 5 steps higher than that. Very terse, very succinct, amazing if you already know the subject at an advanced level (because it skips all the basic parts and the crutches), but if you don't you'll just be confused probably.

If I were to rank them based on difficulty, at the bottom level you have Halliday-Resnick, then Kleppner-Kolenkow, then Taylor, then Goldstein, and then LL (bear in mind that LL has less material than Goldstein, it's just that Goldstein being a much larger book is less terse). The last two are graduate level books, more advanced than what a uni undergrad would normally be expected to read.
 
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I would say the best books to learn intro physics from, are Alonso and Finn: Fundamental University Physics. It is closer to Kleppner and Kolenkow, but not as difficult (problem wise), and you can still reference it years later. It does not skimp on the calculus, and almost everything I derived. The only bad part, is that the book has been out of print for some years now. The copy that is available now Alonso/Finn: Physics, has taken out parts of the original second book, and more than half of the third book.

The good thing, is that you are from Uruguay, so I am assuming you can read Spanish very well. So Spanish copies of Alonso and Finn: Fundamental University Physics can be had for cheap. Moreover, if you need an English version, I believe the copyright has expired, so you can legally download it. (I think).
 
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