Recurrence relations discrete math problem

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The discussion revolves around finding the general solution to a recurrence relation defined for n≥2, specifically the relation an=6an-1-9an-2+8n+4. Participants are exploring the methods for solving this type of discrete mathematics problem.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to manipulate the recurrence relation and expresses confusion regarding the appropriate assumption for the particular solution. They consider the right-hand side of the equation and how to represent constants and linear terms.

Discussion Status

Some participants provide guidance on the form of the solution, particularly regarding the treatment of repeated roots in the characteristic equation. There is an ongoing exchange about the correct representation of the homogeneous solution and the particular solution.

Contextual Notes

Participants are discussing the implications of the recurrence relation's structure, including the nature of the roots and the assumptions made for the particular solution. The original poster indicates they are stuck, highlighting the challenges in progressing with the problem.

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Homework Statement



Find the general solution to the following recurrence relations (defined n≥2).

c) an=6an-1-9an-2+8n+4

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The Attempt at a Solution



an=6an-1-9an-2+8n+4

8n+4= an -6an-1+9an-2

R2-6R+9=0

R=3,3

So hn=A(3)n+B(3)n

Assume pn=Cn+Cn2 → This is where I got stuck!

What should my assumption be??

I thought this because RHS =8n+4

so for the 4 I used Cn since 4 is a constant so I put an extra n term...likewise for 8n.

but it turned out to be a mess!

HELP
 
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hi charmedbeauty! :smile:
charmedbeauty said:
R2-6R+9=0

R=3,3

So hn=A(3)n+B(3)n

no, if a recurrence relation has a root R repeated k times, the k independent solutions are niRn (0≤i<k) :wink:
 
tiny-tim said:
hi charmedbeauty! :smile:no, if a recurrence relation has a root R repeated k times, the k independent solutions are niRn (0≤i<k) :wink:

hmm I am a little confused what should i be?

so i replace hn=A(3)n+B(3)n

with hn=A(3n)+Bn(3n)??
 
charmedbeauty said:
hmm I am a little confused what should i be?

so i replace hn=A(3)n+B(3)n

with hn=A(3n)+Bn(3n)??

yup! :smile:

(and you can leave out those brackets … A3n + Bn3n :wink:)
 
tiny-tim said:
yup! :smile:

(and you can leave out those brackets … A3n + Bn3n :wink:)

Thanks.
 

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