Refraction Problem: Find Angles with Triangles

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The discussion revolves around a refraction problem involving the calculation of angles using triangles and Snell's Law. Participants are attempting to determine the angles of incidence and refraction when light passes through different media, specifically in a scenario involving glass and air.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the use of triangles to find angles but express uncertainty due to limited information. There is mention of Snell's Law and its application to the problem. Questions arise about the relationship between the angles and the refractive indices, as well as how to derive the angles from the given parameters.

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Some participants have offered insights into the relationships between angles and the refractive indices, suggesting that they are exploring various interpretations of the problem. There is acknowledgment of potential errors in previous calculations, and some guidance has been provided regarding the relationships between the angles in different media.

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Participants note that certain values and relationships are initially unclear, and there is a reliance on external resources for clarification. The discussion reflects an ongoing effort to reconcile different interpretations of the problem setup and the relevant equations.

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Basically, I tried to use triangles to find the angles. But I don't know how as it seems I'm only given one side of the triangles.
 
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khoais said:

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The Attempt at a Solution


Basically, I tried to use triangles to find the angles. But I don't know how as it seems I'm only given one side of the triangles.

I think they want you to consider the effect of Snell's Law here.

[tex]\frac{n_1}{n_2} = \frac {Sin \theta_1}{Sin \theta_2}[/tex]
 
LowlyPion said:
I think they want you to consider the effect of Snell's Law here.

[tex]\frac{n_1}{n_2} = \frac {Sin \theta_1}{Sin \theta_2}[/tex]

You mean
[tex]\frac{n_1}{n_2} = \frac {Sin \theta_2}{Sin \theta_1}[/tex]

So let's say n1 = n2 when the glass is empty because the angle of incident is equal to the angle of refraction. When the glass is full, n2 = 1.22 and everything else is unknown. So how would I go about finding just theta r, which is theta_1 in this case?
 
khoais said:
You mean
[tex]\frac{n_1}{n_2} = \frac {Sin \theta_2}{Sin \theta_1}[/tex]

So let's say n1 = n2 when the glass is empty because the angle of incident is equal to the angle of refraction. When the glass is full, n2 = 1.22 and everything else is unknown. So how would I go about finding just theta r, which is theta_1 in this case?

Yes. Sorry for the hurried typo.

With respect to the problem you know the angle of sight over the top is h/(h2 + d2)1/2

And the angle it makes in the liquid is h/(h2 + d2/4)1/2

And you know they are related by the 1.22 then don't you?

You know D so solve for h. Having h in hand then you can figure the angle directly.
 
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LowlyPion said:
Yes. Sorry for the hurried typo.

With respect to the problem you know the angle of sight over the top is h/(h2 + d2)1/2

And the angle it makes in the liquid is h/(h2 + d2/4)1/2

And you know they are related by the 1.22 then don't you?

You know D so solve for h. Having h in hand then you can figure the angle directly.

Thanks a lot lowlypion.

I had a little trouble figuring out why your values didn't work, but in the end I found that the values were actually:

d/(d2 + h2)1/2 for the top angle

and

(d/2)/(d2/4 + h2)1/2 for the liquid angle.

All in all though, you greatly helped me. Thank you so much!
 
khoais said:
Thanks a lot lowlypion.

I had a little trouble figuring out why your values didn't work, but in the end I found that the values were actually:

d/(d2 + h2)1/2 for the top angle

and

(d/2)/(d2/4 + h2)1/2 for the liquid angle.

All in all though, you greatly helped me. Thank you so much!

My apologies. I relied on the Hyperphysics link that shows the angle with the surface rather than with the normal.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/geoopt/refr.html#c3

snell2.gif
 

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