Regarding the Galilean transformation of x'=x-vt

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The discussion centers around the Galilean transformation equation x' = x - vt, specifically focusing on the implications of the minus sign in the context of relative motion between two reference frames, K and K', with K' moving at velocity v with respect to K. Participants explore the physical meaning of the minus sign and its derivation, as well as the application of relative motion concepts.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion regarding the minus sign in the transformation and questions its physical meaning.
  • Another participant illustrates the concept using a personal example of moving in a car, explaining that the negative sign indicates that objects at rest in frame K appear to move left in frame K'.
  • A participant reiterates the confusion about the vector sum of displacements and seeks clarification on the implications of the minus sign.
  • Another perspective suggests differentiating the transformation equation with respect to time to understand the relationship between the velocities of the frames.

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Participants express differing views on the interpretation of the minus sign and its implications, indicating that multiple competing interpretations remain without a consensus.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the frames of reference and their velocities are not explicitly stated, and the discussion does not resolve the mathematical steps involved in deriving the transformation.

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This discussion may be of interest to those studying classical mechanics, particularly in understanding reference frames and transformations in relative motion contexts.

Ricky Pang
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Hello everyone,
I am confused with the minus sign of x'=x-vt. When there are 2 references frames called K and K' which K is at rest and K' moves to right with velocity V with respect to K. Let there is another frame which is my frame of reference called O. The vector sum of the displacement should be OK'=OK+vt which equals x'=x+vt. However, this is wrong. So, I want to ask that what is the physical meaning of the minus sign of Galilean Transformation? Besides, can we apply the concept of relative motion to derive the Galilean Transformation?
 
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I am in a car moving at 100 km/hr down the road; call the frame in which I am at rest K' and the frame in which the road is at rest K. I pass a house along the road; one hour later, where is that house? It is 100 kilometers behind me, and that's what that negative sign in the ##-vt## term is saying.

More generally:
K' is moving to the right relative to frame K, so K and anything at rest in K is moving to the left with speed ##v## when considered from K'.
Consider an object that is at rest at position 0 in frame K; at time ##t## its coordinates in that frame will be ##(0,t)##. However, it is moving to the left in K' so its position coordinate will become more negative with time; at time ##t## its coordinates in the primed frame will be ##(-vt,t)##.
 
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Ricky Pang said:
The vector sum of the displacement should be OK'=OK+vt which equals x'=x+vt. However, this is wrong. So, I want to ask that what is the physical meaning of the minus sign of Galilean Transformation?

The minus sign means that the velocity (if positive) represents a frame moving to the right.
 
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Just my 2 cents: another way is to differentiate the relation x'=x-vt with respect to time t. You then see that the velocity the frame x' is moving plus v equals the velocity the frame x is moving.
 
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