Region of plane where the solution is uniquely determined

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The discussion revolves around solving a partial differential equation given by yux + xuy = 0 with the initial condition u(0,y) = e-y². Participants are exploring the region in the xy-plane where the solution is uniquely determined.

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  • Participants discuss the derivation of the general solution and express confusion about identifying the region in the xy-plane for unique solutions. There are inquiries about how to visualize this region and its boundaries.

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Some participants have provided insights into the characteristics of the solution and its graphical representation. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of the initial condition and the behavior of characteristic curves.

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Participants note the importance of the initial condition and its influence on the solution's uniqueness, as well as the need for visual representation to better understand the problem context.

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1. (a) Solve the equation yux+xuy=0 with u(0,y)=e-y2

(b) In which region of the xy-plane is the solution uniquely determined?

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3. (a) The characteristic curves of a(x,y)ux+b(x,y)uy=0 are given by dy/dx=b(x,y)/a(x,y)

So according to this, I have dy/dx=x/y
or ydy=xdx

Integrating this I get...1/2y2+c1=1/2x2+c2

Multiplying by 1/2 and absorbing the two constants into one to solve for y yields...

y=+-(x2+c)1/2

General Solution:

u(x,y)=f(y2-x2)

e-y2=u(0,y)=f(y2-02)=f(y2)
e-y2=f(y2)

Let w=y2

y=w1/2

So substitute back in
f(w)=e-(w1/2)2=e-w

Therefore...u(x,y)=e-(y2-x2)=ex2-y2

This is the correct answer

(b) This is where I get confused. How do I sketch the region on the xy-plane that show where the solution is uniquely determined? What does this look like?

 
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The fact that u(x,y) is even in x and y is important.
 
Yes, that makes sense. But I still can't picture the graph of this. I need to be able to show on a graph what this looks like.
 
It's easy to figure out what the 3d graph looks like by making 2d plots for fixed x or y. You can also get a 3d plot at wolframalpha.com.
 
Ok, I see the plot
[PLAIN]http://www4c.wolframalpha.com/Calculate/MSP/MSP38419e3dddc3c76gi4d000010dg3gf927260efa?MSPStoreType=image/gif&s=63&w=200&h=197

By observation I would have to say that the boundary bounded by y=x and y=-x would be the region where the solution is uniquely determined. Is this correct? Or am I missing something? Great site by the way. Thanks for that and your help.
 
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I was missing something. The initial condition defines u on the y-axis, so the solution is uniquely determined everywhere the characteristic curves (contours) cross the y-axis. This seems to agree with your result.
 

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