Relation between IR radiation and warming in metals

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between infrared (IR) radiation and the warming of metals, exploring how metals interact with IR radiation and the factors contributing to their temperature increase under such conditions. The scope includes theoretical considerations and conceptual clarifications regarding absorption, reflection, and thermal conduction in metals.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that metals reflect IR radiation almost entirely and question how they can warm up under IR exposure.
  • Others argue that while IR may not be absorbed significantly, other regions of the solar spectrum, such as visible and UV light, could contribute to heating.
  • A participant mentions that low emissivity in the IR range could lead to reduced radiative cooling, allowing metals to retain heat.
  • It is suggested that the high thermal conductivity of metals facilitates heat transfer when in contact with cooler objects, contributing to the perception of warmth.
  • Some participants inquire whether IR alone is sufficient to warm metals, indicating a need to consider spectral characteristics and surface properties.
  • There is a mention that even a small percentage of absorption (e.g., 5%) from a strong IR source could lead to significant heating.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the role of IR radiation in warming metals, with some suggesting that other wavelengths contribute more significantly to heating. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the extent to which IR alone can warm metals.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that factors such as spectral characteristics, impurities, and surface roughness may influence reflectivity and absorption, but these aspects are not fully explored or quantified in the discussion.

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As far as I know, in most of metals, IR radiation is reflected almost entirely and is not absorbed by metals. How does a metal become warmed under IR radiation? or does reflection, on its own, can warm up a metal?
 
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If you are referring to how sunlight can heat up something like a (hot) metal slide on a playground, it must be that some regions of the solar spectrum must be absorbing the sunlight (perhaps the visible and UV). Another factor that could also play a role in making the metal warm is that if the emissivity is low throughout much of the IR for the metal (for each wavelength, emissivity=1-reflectivity i.e. ## \epsilon(\lambda)=1-R(\lambda) ## . If ## R(\lambda) ## is nearly unity, then emissivity is small.) you won't get much radiative cooling. (You will get conductive cooling from the air). And the other factor that can make the metal feel so warm is the high degree of thermal conduction, so that if you make contact with the metal with a cooler object, heat will flow quickly and steadily into the cooler object. Perhaps this is helpful in answering your question.
 
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Charles Link said:
If you are referring to how sunlight can heat up something like a (hot) metal slide on a playground,
Do you mean that IR, on its own, doesn't warm up a metal?
 
hokhani said:
Do you mean that IR, on its own, doesn't warm up a metal?
You would need to look up the spectral characteristics, and impurities and roughened surfaces could affect the reflectivity, but if the reflectivity is in the 95% range or higher, most of the heating is probably coming from other regions of the spectrum. With a very bright source with a lot of IR (such as the sun), even 5% absorption could cause appreciable heating.
 
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